I agree with the sentiment. Israel should not be permitted to be part of the Olympics, their athletes should only be allowed to compete under the neutral flag, like the Russian and Belarussian athletes. Or, alternatively, if the IOC decides to go “no politics at the Olympics”, Russia and Belarus should be permitted to compete again.
But going the extra mile to throw in a cartoonish evil smile and adding a random “USA” emblem? That’s kind of cringe. It’s detrimental to the message it’s trying to convey, unless I misunderstood the message, in which case it’s just dumb.
Many israelis are American nationalists and America provides israel the funds for their gear. There have even been pictures of American-israeli soldiers proudly wearing their American uniform in Gaza.
There appears to be a lot of cognitive dissonance when it comes to US complicity in the Genocide.
When it comes to any Houthi or Hezbollah topic invoking Iran is fine but the people funding israel can’t be named?
Literal pictures and videos of IDF soldiers wearing their American uniform. I have posted them a few months back if you’re willing to dig through my post history you’ll find them.
The “Am Yisrael Chai” , project has raised $1.5 million to buy 4,000 tactical helmets, and 25,000 pieces of clothingincluding tactical uniforms, fireproof overalls, and winter gear, and is literally saving lives
Chewed on the no politics at the Olympics comment for myself and I think where I landed was that the Olympics should be apolitical. I do think these countries should be punished for their actions, however, with the number and types of international destabilizing events increasing, I think this is a quick win for international cooperation. Something all humans can get behind. Doping obviously should be punished, but that’s an athletic issue.
Obviously the precedent of excluding countries has been set, so there’d be vitriolic pushback, but I think it would be worth it to have one majorly public institution (read: in popular awareness) that doesn’t judge, it just lets athletes compete.
I do like the concept of a “politics-free” sporting event, but then those events need to actually be free of politics. That makes things like partially unrecognised countries (Palestine, Taiwan, South Ossetia, Sealand) very difficult, though, so you’d end up with tons of micronations and disputed areas in the line-up, which immediately becomes politics again.
However, I don’t think the IOC is as neutral as they claim. Belarus being excluded for “invading during the Olympic ceasefire” or whatever they claimed was just a political move.
If you’re trying to be free of politics, you’ll have to stay free of politics every time. It’s all or nothing.
In that regard, I sort of respect the IOC for disciplining athletes that refused to compete with Israeli/Russian athletes. I can’t fault the athletes themselves, but at least the organisation seems to stick to its guns most of the time.
Honestly, I think I’d prefer it if there were no flags involved at all.
I agree with the sentiment. Israel should not be permitted to be part of the Olympics, their athletes should only be allowed to compete under the neutral flag, like the Russian and Belarussian athletes. Or, alternatively, if the IOC decides to go “no politics at the Olympics”, Russia and Belarus should be permitted to compete again.
But going the extra mile to throw in a cartoonish evil smile and adding a random “USA” emblem? That’s kind of cringe. It’s detrimental to the message it’s trying to convey, unless I misunderstood the message, in which case it’s just dumb.
Many israelis are American nationalists and America provides israel the funds for their gear. There have even been pictures of American-israeli soldiers proudly wearing their American uniform in Gaza.
There appears to be a lot of cognitive dissonance when it comes to US complicity in the Genocide.
When it comes to any Houthi or Hezbollah topic invoking Iran is fine but the people funding israel can’t be named?
Could you clarify what you mean by “many Israelis are American nationalists”.
What is a nationalist to you, in this context?
You made a pretty big claim here about American military uniforms being worn in Gaza.
What is your source?
https://youtube.com/shorts/9BTtWl77EZ0?si=F_h8o-dO9eSzMxH9
It’s fake
Literal pictures and videos of IDF soldiers wearing their American uniform. I have posted them a few months back if you’re willing to dig through my post history you’ll find them.
So your answer to my ask for your source is “look it up yourself”?
Here you go just this once I opened google for you and typed in words. Now you will change your mind right? https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1763579470676414467
A US Flag doesn’t make it a US Uniform
Ryan McBeth already went over this
https://youtube.com/shorts/9BTtWl77EZ0?si=F_h8o-dO9eSzMxH9
No, because a soldier wearing a patch is not the same as a soldier wearing the uniform which was what you said.
You’re conflating two things here, the twitter account claims something stronger.
And there it is another goalpost moved.
Surely now you concede
Your words.
Did you mean “their American funded uniform” by your words or did you mean the uniform they own as an American service member?
By context maybe this is a misunderstanding and you meant the former, however your words more directly state the latter.
That is the only goalpost, your words. What did you mean by them?
If it’s the former, and you meant their uniform funded by the USA then ok I misunderstood you.
If it’s the latter then I still wait for you to provide any substance to back up your claim.
Here on Lemmy where the points are so small anyone with critical thinking skills can see what’s being said here. We all see you.
Chewed on the no politics at the Olympics comment for myself and I think where I landed was that the Olympics should be apolitical. I do think these countries should be punished for their actions, however, with the number and types of international destabilizing events increasing, I think this is a quick win for international cooperation. Something all humans can get behind. Doping obviously should be punished, but that’s an athletic issue.
Obviously the precedent of excluding countries has been set, so there’d be vitriolic pushback, but I think it would be worth it to have one majorly public institution (read: in popular awareness) that doesn’t judge, it just lets athletes compete.
Thoughts?
I do like the concept of a “politics-free” sporting event, but then those events need to actually be free of politics. That makes things like partially unrecognised countries (Palestine, Taiwan, South Ossetia, Sealand) very difficult, though, so you’d end up with tons of micronations and disputed areas in the line-up, which immediately becomes politics again.
However, I don’t think the IOC is as neutral as they claim. Belarus being excluded for “invading during the Olympic ceasefire” or whatever they claimed was just a political move.
If you’re trying to be free of politics, you’ll have to stay free of politics every time. It’s all or nothing.
In that regard, I sort of respect the IOC for disciplining athletes that refused to compete with Israeli/Russian athletes. I can’t fault the athletes themselves, but at least the organisation seems to stick to its guns most of the time.
Honestly, I think I’d prefer it if there were no flags involved at all.