So, looks like NZXT are looking to rip off gamers with their computer “subscription” service.
Ok this just sounds like Rent-a-Center for computers.
Oh I made that decision when they tried to replace the screws on my recalled rizer cable instead of replacing the whole unit on a $500 pc case. Get fucked nzxt
tl;dw A debt trap that’s such a bad deal that you’d be better off financing it with a payday loan. They lie about their terms and their PC specs. They advertise no contracts but absolutely have contracts, and the terms are awful.
And they are using paid influencers to promote said debt trap to those that don’t know any better, particularly children.
Probably the most insidious part of this to me. Seeing those clips of “influencers” pushing the idea of convincing your parents to get you a rental PC. Disgusting.
A debt trap that’s such a bad deal that you’d be better off financing it with a payday loan
Literally a lower monthly payment, lower total paid and you end up owning a computer if you finance your computer with a predatory payday loan than with this rental program (per GN’s math)
$259/mo??? I expected the price of a couple streaming services, but this is more like car payment territory.
I glanced at their site earlier (but after posting this comment) and it starts at $59/mo for a budget system with a 10th gen i5 and an RTX3050 so probably a $500ish PC when DIYed. And they have about a half dozen tiers above that up to the top $259/mo which is probably a $3000 PC if the parts were current. It’s still a bad deal no matter how you slice it though
Who the hell is renting PCs? Sounds like a scam without even looking into this.
I mean, I could see if they tried to make this rent-to-own over 2-3 years. At half the price they’re offering.
But renting… where you’re paying over the entirety of the price in a single year, is fucking insane.
If renting, and updating it every 2 years, then for like 1/4th of the price then sure. I could see it being promoted how they are. Rent out older stock for 50% retail to at least get some value out of it while allowing people to pay ~$30 a month for a decent computer. (and then you could “upgrade” the lower tier with this to end up recouping 75% of retail over 4 years.)
But who the fuck is paying 10% of the cost a month to borrow an okay computer, even ignoring the full month cancelation fee, and ridiculous contract. (which is… ignoring a LOT.)
It is sad to see NZXT lowered to this as I used to have a decent view of them. They make some nice cases. CAM kinda lowered that view a bit, but I was in the beta for that and got a free water cooler out of it so I could overlook that. And pushing their own not as great products for the prebuilts still seemed okay for prebuilts for those scared to build on their own. But this is just… too much to overlook. Wild.
And looking into it as GN has done, makes it clear that’s only the very tip of the scam.
Is this the first time Steve has said an uncensored fuck?
Its at least rare enough that it stood out enough for me to pause the video and go back to hear it again to confirm.
Same. My jaw dropped. Absolutely loved it.
Yeah… i had to replay it too. He was quite upset.
Steve has no patience for people or company that lack empathy and abuse people.
Remind me his reaction to the email of Artesian CEO, he was quite upset too.
i dont remember this, got a recap/link?
This one: https://youtu.be/d9NzY8TDCAY?t=19m00s (’Steve Loses It’ chapter)
Well shit, wish they’d posted it before black Friday. It was only an AIO.
Same boat - just ordered an AIO directly from them and see the “we’re building your pc” emails. Hoping there’s not shenanigans with this.
Just FYI, you can cancel up until it ships.
If you live somewhere with consumer rights, by law you can return it no questions asked within 14 days of receipt (actual length of time may vary, UK is 14 days)
So is Australia, and these contracts will end them in court here real quick with potentially two Government departments: ACCC and ASIC. Feel sorry for Americans.
I like my arctic liquid freezer aio. Wanted a simple one.
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Lol at all the down votes… people could also have not engaged with your post… but apparently there is a right way to use your posting privileges and you broke the law.
Commenting to downvote later
I don’t understand why people get angry enough at this to down vote it
it’s a single click
Its single click more attention than it deserves.
But by clicking it, you save other people’s attention!
I do appreciate the idea of having some note you create to go with why you saved something. I’ve definitely saved stuff and forgotten why
it’s not about anger, the point of downvoting is to put low effort or other random crap comments below any others that may actually contribute to the topic.
That doesn’t work for me on Lemmy because in the app I use it doesn’t sort comments that way. So I see the comments basically newest first. This is reddit behavior is what it is.
if that was the intended layout of lemmy comments they wouldn’t have vote buttons at all.
Lemmy is meant to be a direct alternative to reddit and it copies plenty of design and user elements from there that don’t necessarily fit with the overall user use case here. There are whole instances without downvote buttons for example. This is an over-arcing statement that lumps together a bunch of instances and user bases that don’t necessarily comply with such a notion.
This is reddit behavior is what it is.
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Lemmy is meant to be a direct alternative to reddit
There are whole instances without downvote buttons for example.
well this is not one of those instances.
Your app should have a button to change the comment sort. I use Boost and it does.
commenting to watch this later
Watching to comment this later
There is a save button.
Sometimes the save button doesn’t give you context for why you saved it and it’s not something you check everyday.
Yeah but I don’t ever use or look at that. Honestly, almost never go to look for shit later on here, so not a habit I have. So if I did save it, I wouldn’t see it til like 6 months from now and I’d probably just go… why the fuck is this saved? And delete it.
There are also things called elephant trails.
People commenting to be able to easily come back to the topic are creating an elephant trail, which will exist regardless of the UI designer, if the software allows people to do it.
Except that the “ui designer” of most (all?) of the lemmy themes and apps have support for saved comments.
So no, it is just people being stupid and not understanding how websites work.
You can fight the elephant trails, or accept them being there. Your choice.
Had to rma my kraken z73 because of a known manufacturing flaw
Took 5 weeks to get a replacement.
Fuck nzxt.
