Critics say increased push to control online activities is to curb criticism of the Pakistani military
  • ᥫ᭡ 𐑖ミꪜᴵ𝔦 ᥫ᭡@feddit.orgEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Exmuslim here, it’s forbidden in Islam to to spy on people ( invade their privacy ), but there is another rule ( which is not actually written, at least not in the main scriptures ), that basically flips everything around, lying, stealing, killing, invading someone else privacy… etc everything becomes allowed, because it’s a necessity… now you might be asking, how and when you know it’s a necessity to do something that’s officially forbidden by Allah ( in this case invading others privacy ) ?

    the answer is… it’s subjective, you just make up your own mind, and justify it with : it’s a necessity, may Allah forgive me 🥺👉👈

    Of course, I’m being too optimistic, religion is there so people don’t use their brains, in reality people ask imams ( our version of priests ) who have authority because “they know” these stuff, it’s just makes life easier

    push users to register VPNs with the state’s media regulator, ostensibly to enhance cybersecurity and fight terrorism.

    Ahh, the terrorism excuse, ok… define terrorism ?!

    again, their own sharia laws are against them…lol…, Invading people’s privacy is prohibited in Islam, so They’re going out of their way, and against the word of their holy Prophet

    “Using VPNs to access blocked or illegal content is against Islamic and social norms, therefore, their use is not acceptable under Islamic law. It falls under ‘abetting in sin,’ ” said the statement, quoting the council’s chairman, Raghib Naeemi.

    man, don’t you just love it when religious people try to save you from eternal hell?

    • asudox@discuss.tchncs.de
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      10 days ago

      the answer is… it’s subjective, you just make up your own mind, and justify it with : it’s a necessity, may Allah forgive me 🥺👉👈

      The answer is when you are in a death situation.

      No wonder, though. It seems like you don’t even intend to learn facts about the religion you’ll believe in.

      • ᥫ᭡ 𐑖ミꪜᴵ𝔦 ᥫ᭡@feddit.orgEnglish
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        10 days ago

        rookie mistake… they told me this when I was a kid but growing up and seeing things not working out as they promised… only then… I was able to see the contradiction

        first of, if you’re a muslim, you’re not slick… this method ain’t gonna work… If you’re not a muslim STOP talking to me like you’re, this “ignorance signaling” trying to paint anyone who crtisizes Islam as ignorant and/or misinformed, while making it look like a misunderstood religion, vague due to its infinite wisdom and mindblowing secrets… Is all nothing but an old tactic that literally, Imams use every friday… that’s how they keep the masses brainwashed…

        secondly, I have trouble talking to people who start discussions with personal attacks, let alone teaching them a thing or two

        thirdly, sure I might be wrong on this one ( I’m not ), I don’t know everything there’s to know about Islam ( that applies to most people even the so called muslim scholars ), but I know enough to leave Islam and that’s what matters to me, I can give hundreds of reasons why… Invalidating my life choices including a choice that could leave me beheaded is so insulting on so many levels

    • Blender Dumbass@lm.madiator.cloudEnglish
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      1 month ago

      how and when you know it’s a necessity

      I did the math actually. And it seems like mass surveillance will only be justified if homicide rates are higher than 20% ( if 1 out of 5 people die in murder ). And only if surveillance actually stops all the crime ( which it doesn’t ) and only if there is nothing less problematic that could be used instead ( which there are plenty techniques, like normal regular investigation, where you ask people around on their own terms ). Basically the math says it isn’t justified by an apocalyptic margin.

      • ᥫ᭡ 𐑖ミꪜᴵ𝔦 ᥫ᭡@feddit.orgEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Oh, Are you the same Blender Dumbass 2.0 ?

        And only if surveillance actually stops all the crime ( which it doesn’t )

        When mass surveillance works, you lose your rights, and when it doesn’t work as intended ( which as the government says to protect you from terrorists ), it gets things wrong and it can be too damaging, like when Google flagged a man who sent his child’s photos to a doctor, or when Facial recognition system gets the wrong person, or when a bank algorithm locks someone of their own account due to suspicious activity… etc

        So we’re damned when it works and we’re damned when it doesn’t.

        Edit: how can I do the math? Do you have any links…