Owners of the affected trucks will require replacement hardware.

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      It’s amazing, they look awful in videos and pictures but then you see one in person and it’s just stunning to look at, not in a good way. They’re the stupidest looking things.

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    Why don’t they just fix it and then release it rather than releasing it for 15 minutes and then recalling it again?

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    I ran into a former coworker (we still work at the same place, just different groups now) at a work thing recently and he told me I had to see his new car.

    It was this. I told him it was ugly. He tried to show me all the bells and whistles. I told him I was glad he liked it, but it was still ugly.

    He said yeah…that’s what my wife says too. She hates it.

    lol

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        He was bragging about the stainless steel being made to withstand bullets and we do live in a large city in the US in a state with basically no gun control, so I told him I could potentially see that coming in useful during rush hour on the freeways.

        He had a story for why it was shaped the way it was, the windows are angled at the most aerodynamically possible angle because that’s important for a car that will probably spend 50% of its life stuck at a red light.

        He’s obviously drank the kool aid. When I got back to the office I told my current coworkers, and a couple of interns said that car is super dangerous because it basically has no crumple zones. Then they pulled up some YT videos showing tests proving it.

        The best part? We’re all engineers. The interns knew about the crumple zone thing. The senior Elon fanboy was just impressed with the window angle and bulletproof doors. I didn’t ask who he voted for, but I can guess.

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          But… it does have crumple zones.

          The entire front and rear castings are designed to shatter in a high energy collision and crumple.

          The size of a crumple zone isn’t as important as how it absorbs the energy and dispenses it.

          You could have a 20foot crumple zone that’s empty and it’s be useless.

          You can see it crumpled here. They’ve also posted a different video on the official X account of a crash test but I won’t post that to avoid linking them. here.

          Since you got something so utterly basic wrong and posted it as true, I can only assume the entire post is fabricated.

          Edit: took a screen shot instead of video. It crumples all the way past the front wheels

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            You seem nice. Anyway, a crumple zone is assumed to be designed in such a way that it protects the occupants of the vehicle.

            No one said it didn’t “crumple” on impact. The problem is that it doesn’t sufficiently crumple in such a way that it dissipates the energy effectively.

            In this case, the vehicle’s occupants are still traveling at a decent rate of speed and the material of the vehicle is thick enough so they could potentially sustain head injuries. Other vehicles do not have a similar concern.

            Hope your day gets better. Cheers.

            https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-cybertrucks-stiff-structure-sharp-design-raise-safety-concerns-experts-2023-12-08/

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            I remember there was a suspicion about the nature of these because Tesla have chosen not to be certified by third parties for safety and only posted these in-house crash videos instead, no other data has been shared. It rose some eyebrows because Elon could has dodged the regulations just out of spite and to cut corners in time, money needed for that, but at the same time we don’t know if their own tests are legit and how many of them have been done - all we see is these posts by his SMM team. This conversation about CT safety consists of only one party, Tesla, that has obvious economical interests, so you either trust them or not.

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            I’ll reserve judgement until the NHTSA. NCAP, and IIHS weigh in. I know the NHTSA and IIHS have declined to test due to the cost of the vehicle/testing vs low market share of the Cybertruck. As far as I understand NCAP has no plans to test since the design by default breaks EU regulations before you even consider crash testing.

            I trust Tesla’s internal testing about as much as I trust Boeing’s internal testing.

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      Hard to understand the calculus of people who would still be willing to buy a Tesla at this point. They’re literal death traps with shoddy manufacturing

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    An actual recall that requires a hardware fix / replacement this time, and not a software update.

    Am I reading the PDF right in that 1% or 2,431 trucks are affected, meaning they sold ~240k trucks?

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      Ford, Chevrolet, and Dodge each sold over 700k half-ton pickup trucks last year, while Toyota sold only 130k Tundras. I suppose it’s possible that there are a quarter million suckers out there.

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        Those are all more affordable, reliable, and established brands though.

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        I have edited my comment with information I found and it seems Tesla is selling nowhere near that amount (30-40k)

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    I keep forgetting how nasty they look… I’m glad I don’t have to see these on European roads. Not yet, at least.

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        When I first saw one pass by me in reality, my first reaction was “jesus”. And the colors I’ve seen on display (a Tesla store is nearby), wtf? Not that a good color would help a lot, it still looks very wrong.

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          I see way too many around here and people have taken to putting wraps on it. I love seen one that tries to make it look like the Warthog from Halo.

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      I don’t really care what they look like. If any truck actually could meet the promises these made, I’d buy the shit out of them:

      -All electric

      -Sophisticated sensor suite to improve operational safety

      -Working performance comparable to F150

      -low maintenance

      -Can be used as home power backup

      -not a Deathtrap

      -not a Killing machine

      It hits the electric points, but that’s it. It’s a bad truck. It doesn’t fulfill any of the “smart” promises. Death trap killing machines in constant recall that can’t handle rain… Let alone do work.

      The aesthetic doesn’t even make my list of complaints. It’s like the whole industry has been trying to make trucks as shitty as possible for like 30 years. Give me a '94 ranger electric conversion kit and it’s game fucking over cyber truck.

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        So what about the F150 Lightning doesn’t meet that? It actually offers whole house backup which is something that caught my attention

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          I’m definitely a fan of the Lightning, but it’s a huge truck, similar to a Raptor in length. It wouldn’t fit in my driveway. They need an EV Mavick or Ranger. (I’ve heard rumors of a Ranger PHEV, which could be a game changer for EV towing)

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            Yeah he just mentioned “F150 performance” and it’s literally an F150. That’s what prompted my question.

            It’ll be great to see them start coming out with smaller truck sized EVs.

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          Not in love with the “big boy” from factor but when I believe they’re going to enter “long term support” territory I absolutely would be interested.

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      I’m from Europe and I already met one in my hometown. The other day, it even damaged scaffolding on the Powder Gate in Prague, while it was, hilariously, riding on the bed of a tow truck.

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      I doubt they’ll ever come to Europe. They don’t meet even the most basic crash safety standards. These things are designed to annihilate pedestrians, not to try to reduce harm.

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        They don’t meet even the most basic crash safety standards.

        Well that’s just incorrect.

        We actually have no idea what crash safety standards they meet because Tesla hasn’t submitted them for any testing at all, and as we all know from Elon’s new BFF, if you don’t test for it, you won’t have to worry about it.

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          They did publish a video of a crash test, but I think Tesla did it themselves and didn’t publish any data, just a “comparison video” with an F150 Lightning.

          It didn’t look great… A lot of people were pointing out how tiny the crumple zone is, and the stop seemed more violent than most vehicles.

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      They look like they have been on the streets for 10 years. Turns out stainless steel isn’t all that stainless.

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      I’m pretty sure the EU banned them on the basis that they are death traps for their drivers, other road uses, and pedestrians alike.

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      You get the thing that represents all cyber truck owners: a lollipop, or as it’s also known—a “sucker.”