I’m only 20 years old, I’ve never voted or even really bothered paying attention to any other election, and I dunno it kinda feels like I started on one that was really crazy? But I’m not sure maybe every election has been insane and I just didn’t know because I wasn’t paying attention.

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    It didn’t used to be, but I’m guessing this is how it’ll be from now on. It used to be a pretty mundane activity, and people could even agree to disagree. When I was your age I remember asking friends who they voted for, and those conversations would go something like this

    Friend 1: Who did you vote for?

    Friend 2: So-and-so

    Friend 3: haha, that guy is an idiot! You’re so stupid

    Friend 2: lol, yeah maybe

    Friend 1: whatever, let’s go find a party

    And it wouldn’t really change much. Now everything after friend 2 would be full of hatred, people disowning each other, and outright vitriol. If we can’t even talk to our friends about this stuff, how the hell are we going to talk to people who we completely disagree with that we don’t know? Of course it’s been engineered to be like this now. This isn’t people changing of their own accord. This is intentionally manufactured division and strife to keep people fighting amongst each other while the billionaires pick everyone’s pockets, and the fascists consolidate power. It’s not going to go back to the way it was without significant activism and hardship.

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      Yeah, now it’s entirely reasonable to drop a human being from your friend pool for the rest of your life because of which person they voted for.

      If I find out somebody has voted for Trump they are now persona non grata to me.

      And before you say I shouldn’t let politics rule my friendships, my dad is dead because of how Trump bungled the covid pandemic response, so any person who has voted for that person has said that my dad dying is less important to them than that guy being given the highest office in the land.

      I cannot think of a graver insult, and it is one that cannot be apologized for short of bringing my father back to life.

      So if you voted for Trump, fuck you.

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        I’ve also cut people out of my life because of it. It says more than I care to type right now about a person if they’re voting for trump. Even discounting any possible statements it makes about their personal values, it tells me they don’t live intentionally, don’t think about their actions, don’t read, and don’t think critically. If they do those things, then it tells me a lot about where their other values lie. I’m too far along in my own personal journey to allocate time in my life for people like that.

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      This is true (edit: for fairly recent history; going back more we have women’s suffrage times and the civil war times), but I also don’t know that it’s great. When we see people having their rights denied or, worse, taken away, standing complicity by or with the people working to deny or strip those rights does not work for me. I have cut people out of my life and am even low-contact with some of my family because they want to hurt people I love and that’s not OK with me.