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  • Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    41·
    3 days ago

    By that … well let’s call it logic… People shouldn’t ever wear glasses, get surgery, braces, hearing aids, or any of the various other life improving devices that are all to common in todays world… and medicine in general is obviously the work of satan, directly defying gods will of having you be sick sometimes (or for other people)/always.

  • ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world
    7·
    3 days ago

    This has always been my position in regards to “Born Again” Christians. If you need to be born again, are you saying God messed up originally…?

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
    15·
    3 days ago

    I mean, if you accept the judeo-christian concept of a single creator deity that is omnipotent, omniscient, and infallible, then trans people are perfect by default because they could not have been born as they are and not be just as perfect as any other expression of “God’s” infinite power, knowledge, and love.

    See, that’s the thing. God as described by christians is all knowing. So “he” would have known, at the very moment of creation that trans people would eventually have a way to shape their bodies to match their inner self.

    Within the concept of such a god, it could be argued that trans people were intelligently designed to be trans from the very beginning. Adam and Eve were created with the seeds that make trans people possible. God makes no mistakes, ergo, we humans created by such a god can never be mistakes. We are all “his” planned, intended outcome.

    If someone wanted to argue about free will being a factor, and ignore the science that clearly shows that being trans isn’t a choice, but is most assuredly something determined before birth, you still run into god the ineffable. We mere mortals cannot fully understand his plan, his intent. God’s ineffability, his “plan” is used to explain why other aspects of human behavior exist, so why are trans people existing not also a part of that plan.

    Within the concept of the ineffable god, it is assumed that everything is part of his plan, even if that is solely to test us or make us ready for something. So, if one believes that the omnipotent, omniscient, ineffable god is a fact of existence, then one must give their trust and faith that god has gifted us with trans people. It would be wise to assume that god is testing us against the known rules laid out in the christian holy book where the very son of god wants us to love our neighbors.

    When this is the case, we must, therefore, recognize that trans people are here on earth to test us, and to give us the chance to show god that we can love our neighbors. That, by loving and accepting our trans neighbors, we would be acting in accordance with God’s laws, and that it is unchristian to do anything that would prevent trans people from living under the will of God to be exactly who and what God created them to be.

    Anyone claiming to be christian that does not see trans people as a gift from their god to teach them love and acceptance, to test their capability to love all of God’s creation as they love god himself, well, they have failed their god.

    There is nothing more christian than to love and treat trans people with utmost respect.

    • miss phant@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      12·
      3 days ago

      Unfortunately this is more than any christian abusing their religion as a vessel of hatred is ever willing to read. I’m not religious but I’ve met way more christians who do understand this and were some of the most supportive people in my life than the bad kind. In the end I believe it’s just a matter of education and religion is usually the excuse but not the cause for transphobia.

      • bufalo1973@lemmy.ml
        8·
        3 days ago

        “Are you saying trans people are a mistake of God? So, does God make mistakes?” 🤷‍♂️

      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
        8·
        3 days ago

        Agreed completely.

        We shouldn’t need anything to give love and respect to each other. When a person does have a deity/religion/holy book that specifically preaches compassion, it boggles the mind how that person can just ignore that very basic precept. Like, that’s just basic human decency, it shouldn’t require thought, much less external pressure via religion.