• mox@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 month ago

    I love this in principle.

    I just wish Mastodon instances were viewable without JavaScript. Opening the door to many types of browser exploit and fingerprinting shouldn’t be necessary just for reading.

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        It also does have an API which can be used by apps, including alternate frontends which don’t use JS.

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        It’s simple, when you understand how shaky the foundation of all digital infrastructure is it’s impossible to not be paranoid.

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          Relevant XKCD.

          The Polyfill incident is bad (that seems to be how the hackers got into the internet archive), and the OpenSSH one could have been really nasty, if it wasn’t caught both early, and by chance (a performance engineer at a major software company noticed).

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        idk how you spare the effort.

        When you’ve been building networked systems for longer than JavaScript has existed, it no longer takes effort to see the vulnerabilities. When you’ve watched endless vulnerabilities be exploited over the years, it’s not paranoia, but a real-world problem that impacts real people. At that point, the flaws are impossible to responsibly ignore.

        Spreading awareness and showing people how to build safer systems does sometimes get tiring, though.

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        It’s not paranoid to complain about the unnecessity of javascript when all you want to do is read a public text post on a social media platform. I have javascript disabled on some browsers, and it’s annoying to have to whitelist a site that really shouldn’t need it.

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          Isn’t it basically a fundamental underlying technology of the web I don’t understand how you can have it disabled and still be able to access modern websites.

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            it isn’t. that is html and css, some would argue it’s html only.

            javascript is not needed to load a website. It’s useful for interaction, and needed to load content separately and dynamically. without it you get a mostly (but not totally) static document like in Office Word

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                that does not mean javascript is essential, and mox’s point is still very valid.

                using WASM instead of JS is not better either. you simply don’t need any clientside executable code on a read-only view of a page

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        I actually gave up recently for my mental health of all things. Turns out accepting being tracked in just about everything I do but also getting all the benefits of living in the future, without the effort spent on mitigation, is a huge relief. Does Google know my daily routine? Yes. Did they when I had the tin foil hat on? Probably also yes.

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          I find the negatives detract from the benefits too much, usually. Like having your arm cut off and then receiving lovemaking: I am no longer in the mood.

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            Have you been watching Bad Monkey? Because that’s literally about half the plot.

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          Same it’s much nicer to enjoy the tech/tools. I still ad block on all devices tho

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      At the same time people on here are defending the centralization of PC gaming on Steam so even fediverse users don’t understand decentralization

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        I think people just prefer Steam to Epic or EA’s store fronts. Whenever GoG gets brought up, the only major complaint is is that there’s no official Linux launcher, even when there are Linux binaries for the games.

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          GOG’s Windows launcher is bad so it’s not really a big loss. Heroic Launcher is excellent and supports more than just GOG

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        How do you imagine decentralized gaming? Every game comes with it’s own launcher?

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          The idea is for games to be launcher independent/compatible with many launchers. If I wanna play a game I got on gog I could use the official launcher, heroic, mini galaxy, or I could even use no launcher and just download the game installers directly

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            And how would a launcher identify you’ve actually purchased the game? You still need a central source for that. Hypothetically I guess there could be an activitypub like protocol that all storefronts could use to sync purchases, but that opens up a whole other can of worms, such as account linking, purchase duplications, refunds. The two main questions with this hypothetical are

            • Why would stores implement this when they don’t really benefit from it?
            • Why would the users want it when it means creating more accounts and linking them? Why not just stick to one platform that best covers your needs? I guess there would be the “what if Valve turns bad?” argument, but company turning bad is at best a once in a decade situation. If that’s the only reason then the feature won’t be used 99.99% of the time.
            • There’s also a question of who pays for the data? Games are huge and the cost of keeping storing them is factored into the price of the game. However, if you buy from store A and download in store B how is store B supposed to stay afloat when they only eat the cost of storing the game.

            As for going completely launcherless, how do you solve updating the game? Steam was originally made to solve the patching problem, because each patch would effectively shut the entire game community down while everyone waited for everyone else to patch their game.

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          My fantasy is that PC games become similar to roms, where it’s a single file. Maybe encoded is the system specs, OS, etc.

          Then the “emulator” just works.

          Of course, no financial incentives and a lot of work just to exist. Not to mention, it’ll be impossible to do for modern games. But maybe every game that’s older than 10 years old gets this treatment.

          Also I’m not a OS engineer and maybe this is what Proton is doing with Linux.

          Then pure decentralized gaming on any OS - computer, browser, raspberry pi, “smart Fridge”, whatever has the specs. And the game just works.

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      The instance I’m on isn’t federated with every other instance. Why would you expect steam to effectively federate with every instance?

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        What? I’m not following. Steam isn’t federating with anyone. This is about having a link to an external site. Nothing more. Has nothing to do with federation directly.

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      The fuck?

      I don’t use Mastodon, because I barely even use Twitter, and the whole point of that platform is to observe the non-stop parade of simpletons and lunatics.

      From what little I have seen, Mastodon seems like a place where you go to live in a ultra annoying self-policed fart sniffing bubble, and publish security disclosures.

      Now, I don’t need to know about the pedo instances, but if you can recommend any instances that emulate Twitter’s cultural clashes, of fart sniffing resistance liberals, and bleach drinking QANON chuds, please let me know.

      I’d love to watch those nitwits spar, without the deluge of crypto scam ads and onlyfans DMs.

      I know it’s not directly related to your comment, which was already fairly self-explanatory. So…yeah, any recommendations?

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          I said cultural clashes, not pedo and MAGA circlejerks.

          Wait, do you not realize what an echo chamber is…?

          Because that’s exactly what I don’t want in my Twitter-like experience.

          I want to watch the opposing groups of internet brained waterheads, who view posting as combat, flail, whine, and throw hissy fits at each other, while on the same platform.

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              … gladiator pit?

              First off, no, this isn’t combat and I don’t suffer from that delusion…

              Secondly, I’m talking about crazy vs. crazy. I want QANON nuts, antivax moms, liberals that accuse everyone they don’t like of being a Russian bot, etc.

              Finally… I’m having a hard time moving past you calling this a gladiator pit, and implying that I’m a gladiator… Actually, what’s your Twitter handle. You sound like someone I should follow.