And if something did maybe happen, it’s the CIA’s fault

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      No nuance, only china bad evil commees who kill their own people because they hate freedom.

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        Wow, you actually can use your brain. That was spectacular, you should do this more often, instead of what you did back there.

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        Nah, China kills it’s own people because the ruler can’t ever tolerate handing power to anyone else.

        Nice try tho 🤡

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              Well he’s incredibly popular, so probably quite long unless he starts fucking up or gets coup’d by capitalists in the party ala Yeltsin.

              Unlike Hu Jintao’s path, he isn’t struggling to manage the contradictions between the interests of the national bourgeoisie against those of the working class.

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                  I’d examine why you think that’s how China works, but we’re at conspiracy-theory level nonsense where you’ll just keep making up shit to justify your original position.

                  Instead lets stay on solid ground: What policies or actions has Xi Jinping taken that you feel hurt his popularity? (Or would have, if everyone in China wasn’t afraid to say so for fear of getting disappeared)

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                    Right, ministers just disappear but that’s just shit that happens… Did you also know that in Russia suicide by defenestration is just what people do after criticizing Putin?

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                    The social credit score system is pretty effective at ensuring everyone says they like Xi.

                    Happiness is mandatory.

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          Yes, I did. Tianmen square massacre deniers make me mad.

          It should make you mad as well, if you were a decent person.

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            Wikipedia indicates there wasn’t a massacre in Tiananmen square: “Several people who were situated around the square that night, including former Beijing bureau chief of The Washington Post Jay Mathews[f] and CBS correspondent Richard Roth[g] reported that while they had heard sporadic gunfire, they could not find enough evidence to suggest that a massacre took place on the square”

            “In 2011, three secret cables from the United States embassy in Beijing agreed there was no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square.[244] Instead, they said Chinese soldiers opened fire on protesters outside the square as they fought their way from the west towards the center.[244] A Chilean diplomat who had been positioned next to a Red Cross station inside the square told his US counterparts that he did not observe any mass firing of weapons into the crowds in the square itself, although sporadic gunfire was heard. He said that most of the troops who entered the square were armed only with anti-riot gear.”

            While they do provide sources that say the student death toll was likely high, most sources estimate over 500. (Again, not in the square itself)

            I’m just trying to be factual- the students were funded and supported by Western forces including the United States, probably not to help the students and spread democracy and capitalism, but to create division. The students clashed with China’s fucked up communist government and military. There’s not too many possibilities when a civilian force clashes with a state military.

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          Don’t have a hissy fit about someone else’s emotions. It’s just a comment.