Discord is banned in Turkiye. The reason is some data theft, blackmail, AI montage photos, etc. As usual, our government made the easiest and most illogical move :)

I am looking for an alternative platform to talk and chat with my friends. Which platforms do you recommend?

The ones I tried:

  • Revolt: Voice chat is not stable. They do not accept new registrations.
  • Matrix: Unstable overall.
  • TeamSpeak: ancient interface. We can still try it.
  • XMPP: It has an old interface like TS. Not sure if it has voice channels.
  • Your recommendations?
  • WolvenSpectre@lemmy.caEnglish
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    10 days ago

    Discord was based off of Slack and Microsoft Teams is a trash knockoff. All depends what you intend to use it for.

  • BearOfaTime@lemm.eeEnglish
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    10 days ago

    XMPP/Jabber has whatever interface you choose (determined by the client you use), and does voice pretty darn well.

    I’m currently using Jmp.chat as a SIM/data provider, and they provide an XMPP account via Snikket. I can connect to that account with pretty much any XMPP/Jabber client.

    To me, XMPP/Jabber is the most flexible, because it’s a protocol, and you choose which parts you want. And you can choose which clients you use. I have 2 clients on my phone and one on my laptop. They all work fine with the same account, with messages showing up at all simultaneously. One client (Snikket) has multiple accounts in it. The thing is XMPP/Jabber as a protocol is like SMTP - it’s a standard, so all clients can communicate with each other, if they support the same features (eg OMEMO encryption, which is popular now).

    Alternatively check out:

    Teleguard, it’s from the folks at SwissCows. They claim E2E, and from the way you connect devices, and that you can’t recover an account from them, I tend to believe it. Though I haven’t seen a third party evaluation (I belive they’re closed source, unfortunately). So do with that what you will.

    Simplex Chat, self hostable, they claim it’s very secure. I’ve used it some, the phone app is a bit heavy on ram use.

    There are numerous others out there.

    • 14th_cylon@lemm.eeEnglish
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      10 days ago

      xmpp is a protocol, it doesn’t have interface. you may be thinking about some specific software using xmpp, in that case you have to say what software you are talking about.

  • plofi@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    9 days ago

    Guilded is really similar to Discord, but Roblox bought them so you need a Roblox account to use it. It’s great for voice chat.

    • EngineerGaming@feddit.nlEnglish
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      9 days ago

      I don’t think it’s great to change one walled garden for another. If you are willing to change, better switch to a protocol instead. Even if there’s something wrong with the server, witching between different instances is much easier than between entirely different products.

  • suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    10 days ago

    If you or one of your friends can self-host, my group used mumble before discord. I still don’t really know why we switched.

  • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    10 days ago

    There isn’t a full replacement for Discord out there, it’ll have to be old school with multiple things together.

    Teamspeak is great for voice comms (or Mumble). And you could use Matrix or XMPP for text chat. Matrix should be a lot better if you either self-host or join a smaller server that isn’t so overloaded all the time.

    For game streaming Broadcast Box paired with OBS Studio seems like a good option for low latency streaming.

  • InFerNo@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    9 days ago

    KiwiIRC is a web based IRC client. Does not have voice chat afaik, but since it’s IRC it’s very lightweight and had a low entry barrier.

  • everypizza@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    9 days ago

    matrix: unstable overall

    “Unstable” is an understatement, and this comes from a girl who uses it all day every day.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      8 days ago

      Isn’t it generally better if you use a smaller instance/host your own? Most of the complaints I’ve heard have been on the busier instances.

      That said, I only use it occasionally to catch up on dev updates.

  • twoface@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    9 days ago

    Teamspeak 3 is ancient, but works.

    However there is a new version of Teamspeak (TS5) which is much closer to Discord and looks much nicer. You could give that a try

    • Lennny@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      9 days ago

      There was a TS4?

      There’s guilded, have an old guild leader in tech that always tries to get us to be guinea pigs for different voips, and that one isn’t terrible if discord isn’t available.

      Ventrilo, is that even around anymore?
      Mumble wasn’t too bad,

  • Cossty@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    9 days ago

    I use Steam Chat for playing games with family and friends. It has better audio quality than discord in my opinion, and you can make groups (something like Discord servers) too. It doesn’t have all the functionality of servers, but the basic idea is there.

    I am actually surprised nobody mentioned it yet Why use some third party application, when you can use the Steam’s one.

    It’s not like the OP is concerned about privacy. They were using discord. They didn’t say it has to be open source.

    For talking outside of gaming or away from PC, I use signal.

  • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    10 days ago

    Revolt: Voice chat is not stable. They do not accept new registrations.

    That’s news to me. Where do they not allow new accounts signing up???

    • Serpentian@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      10 days ago

      Since Discord was blocked in Russia today, everyone went to revolt, which cannot deal with so many registrations for now

      • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        10 days ago

        Ah okay, yeah they probably don’t have the backend servers for it as it has grown slowly if at all over the past year. Revolt is meant to be run on independent self hosted backends similar to Lemmy (only without federation) but humans are going to be humans, and simply pile into the one largest, most common Revolt instance and cause huge traffic problems.

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 days ago

        So you’re saying revolt is about to have a shitton of russian users, which means it’s about to become a pro-russian war hub. You know what they say about nazis. Allow one nazi into your bar, and he’ll invite his friends. Soon enough, your bar isn’t a bar with a few nazis in it. It’s become a nazi bar.

        Same concept, different facists.

        • BearOfaTime@lemm.eeEnglish
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          10 days ago

          Russians are now Nazis?

          Someone needs to read more history, and out down the Book of Pejoratives

        • Fitik@fedia.io
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          10 days ago

          Your reply sounds pretty xenophobic, ngl Isn’t it better for Russian people to get access to information that Russian government doesn’t control?

          • BearOfaTime@lemm.eeEnglish
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            10 days ago

            More like jingoistic, which is rather tiresome anymore. “Nazi” today is a virtually meaningless pejorative, and my dead grandparents are rolling in their graves having escaped real Nazis.

  • SagXD@lemm.eeEnglish
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    10 days ago

    When it got banned? My Friend is from Turkiye. He still used it.

          • naticus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            9 days ago

            I use it on mobile and desktop regularly without sync issues. Has it always had that problem for you? I generally always get messages at the exact same time without fail.

            • Rolling Resistance@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              9 days ago

              I don’t have it on desktop anymore, but if I install it now, the desktop app won’t have any conversations that I have on my phone. I use a Matrix bridge instead that doesn’t forget messages.

              • naticus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                9 days ago

                Correct, it will only have all future messages. Nothing historic. But it should sync literally everything going forward.

                • Rolling Resistance@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  9 days ago

                  Well, I don’t like this. The idea of sacrificing messaging history in favour of illusory security gains doesn’t sit well with me. Same goes for Signal backups.

  • Imma_lazyboy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    10 days ago

    I setup a Mattermost server for me and the boys. It’s more slack than discord. But chat, rooms and voice all worked. Push notifications worked on android and Apple. But, I had to admit defeat. No one wants to leave discord because they all have at least 1 friend who won’t leave it.

    I tried to self hosted matrix, but it suffered the same feigned interest.

      • Imma_lazyboy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        9 days ago

        Discord is a closed source system. Matrix with a discord bridge would work. You just use your matrix server and a bot to send and receive on your behalf. There is functionality between but technically the two systems are independent. I also see issues with it not being 100% all the time. Typical of something bridging to a closed system.

        What compatibility are you looking for? A non discord application connected directly to a discord server and can send text, audio and visual via discord infrastructure? Nah, probably won’t happen. Bridging is the closest right now.