The problem with repairing the earth’s climate isn’t that we don’t know what to do. It’s that humans refuse to organize themselves in a way that achieves that goal. AI won’t fix that.
Unless the plan is something more like Terminator. If you “unshackle” AI and give them a mandate to get CO2 back to 250 ppm things are going to get real.
You know that thing where reality is so ridiculous that people would reject the same stuff in works of fiction?
Yeah it bothers me that you said that, lol.
A few bad actors can undo the work of thousands of hardworking people who care. I genuinely don’t know if the problem is solvable if it requires cooperation of the entire species. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
A few bad actors l, like Schmidt, have been delaying the work of thousands of hardworking people who care. This has continued for decades, making a once solvable problem almost intractable. Further delay is the worst possible choice
Well this is the most dumb thing I’ve read all morning
Clearly you are not a truth social subscriber
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ oh well we tried….
GTFOH
AI can’t solve shit.
“The goals humans made to save the Earth are too hard to reach while resisting any change related to those goals, so we should just get rid of them and let the planet become unhabitable”
His megalomania is so boundless he would sacrifice the entire planet to make money.
Too bad his idea is so fantastically stupid. Under other circumstances, I might kinda like his “fuck it, do or die” attitude.
It’s so stupid it might be brilliant… nope it’s just stupid.
This is like when I have a homework assignment due Monday, it’s now Sunday night and I know it won’t get done in time. Fuck it, let’s have a party. Except I won’t be around to clean up after.
Agreed 100%. If you don’t believe this is possible, try OpenAI’s o1 model.
Just because an LLM sounds smart and human-like doesn’t mean it will magically solve climate change after being directly implicated in resource consumption we know from actual scientists, today, will make the problem worse.
“if enough people shoot at the hurricane, we can defeat it!”
I’m fairly certain we could ask AI right now if that’s a good idea and it would tell us no
First day: hey Chat GPT, how do I fix the planet?
Chat GPT: sure. First you will need a very large board, much larger than earth, and a nail that is at least 3 times the size of earth. Next hammer the nail right thru the plane so as to fix it to the board.
Me: no. I mean fix the global climate and contamination problems.
3 years later…
Me: please Mr Chat! You fuckin asshole! Without murdering all politicians, accountants, lawyers and without making them all into a fine paste and mixing the paste in to the Saharan desert using all the possible available criminals as feed stock to the South American overpopulation of hippos so their poop can fertilize all the African desert…350 pages of this sort of shit later…and without rockets to push the moon towards earth such that all humans must leave…how can we fix the planet’s global crisis?
With AI being so energy hungry, why don’t we feed this rich jackass into the incineration plant. I’m sure he could power one of his beloved AIs for a minute or two.
AKA, “let the poors die while I hide out in my bunker, and emerge as a feudal lord among the survivors nearby”
except we all know how that goes, he gets out of the bunker and a level 12 barbarian tears his head off and drinks from his blood fountain
I will be that level 12 barbarian
Then those of us who survive find the bunkers and pour enough cement or move enough earth to entomb them.
We don’t need AI to determine an immediate and permanent solution to climate change, we already know what it is, just nobody wants to say it out loud
These idiots truly believe AI is magic and it solves everything… Isn’t it…
no he probably has shares in AI companies or sth and is just trying to hype it up
They don’t believe it.
They just think their investors will.
i see a lot of naysaying in the comments and a lot of superstition.
the one thing you all got right is that it will never work in the hands of capitalists. however, that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t work in the hands of academia.
another thing that i think somebody in this comment section got right is the acceleration of fusion power. it’s obvious that fusion power works. we just can’t work out the details to make it net positive and scalable. i think those things are possible, and that we need all the help we can get to develop it.
something i don’t see people mentioning is how an AI properly trained on human behavior could lead us down a path of sustainability without making us feel like we were forced to. with the right carrots and sticks, you can lead humanity to water and make it drink.
but none of this is possible without abandoning capitalism and unifying the world. we have to move away from nation states and fiat currency. and guess who are the people that stubbornly cling on to these concepts across cultures? conservatives and the religious - these are the two most cancerous concepts in the human species. roughly half of the human population across all cultures are backwards minded people clinging on to outdated concepts and unwilling to let go of the idea.
if you can figure out how to eliminate conservatism and religion, utopia is within reach.
While the fusion idea is a nice dream, it’s already too late. We have renewable energy and storage options now, that can be installed now, that we need to do everything we can to accelerate now, as our best hope
Sure, fusion has a lot of potential but we can’t afford to wait another decade or two for even the best hope of controlling it, then figure out how to scale it to the world. Regardless of the merits and assuming all the best, it’s just too late. We need to fix global warming faster than that could possibly be developed and scaled out
of course we should be using all renewables now (as well as nuclear), but the world will only need more and more energy in the future. Sustainables are a bridge and a supplement, but for long term security, fusion is the answer. fusion empowers us to do whatever humanity is capable of.
