We are not even going to get dense cities like Night City. Imagine how much worse the cyberpunk dystopia is going to be with a 2.5 hour commute each way from the suburbs along a mega highway.
Look, us YIMBYs are trying our best, okay?
Do NYC, Seattle, SF, London, Tokyo, and all of the other dense cities not exist anymore?
None of those are even close to the density of Night City. Tokyo has a density of 6,363 persons/km^2, compared to Night City’s density of 65,000 people/km^2.
Also those are ‘old’ cities. They have historical reasons for increasing density. Night City is a city founded and built by mega corps, represents the ‘new’ world that the mega corps want to build. My point is that in our world, the type of cities that are being built and our mega corps want, are all suburban spawl.
Meanwhile IRL cool cybernetic implants: I’m sorry our company has been bought by Amazon and support for your eyes has been dropped. Please refer to a local surgeon to remove them at your expense.
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This is fair, if we had neon shit and cybernetics it would make the world a little cooler I guess.
Nah, they’d make it like repo.
I have an artificial lens in one eye (like a contact lens that’s been glued in place) that has built in uv protection. Not cybernetic as such, but I’d say it was adjacent.
A friend of mine changed his internal lenses to synthetic ones due to cataracts. He was used to the dim light of cataracts and it took him a while to get used to a brighter world.
Dude had built in shades and didn’t know it.
Fun fact, many of the intra-ocular lenses and contact lenses that provide UV protection do so just by the properties of the material they are made of, not any special coating.
Yeah that sounds cool af
Lol, And all it cost me the ability to focus on anything not exexactly 37 inches away.
We’re approaching a cool cyberpunk future but can’t even get wet streets with reflective purple neon signs 😔
Lots of places in East Asia with those vibes
Seattle has the wet streets covered. Someone just needs to install some signs.
We’ve got the wonder bread sign what more could you want?
Talk to c/hydrohomies if you have trouble with streets not being wet enough
I want to be a cyborg but after seeing how tech, especially software, has developed (like, I don’t even really want to buy a new car because how tf am I gonna fix it), I don’t think I can trust it. Imagine if your ears’ firmware just stops being supported.
Any cybernetics would have to be built for me by a hobbyist with a workshop full of Raspberry Pis or something
In a loose sense, any implant makes you a cyborg, in a more strict sense implants that control something in your body do. Heart rate control by a pacer, insulin level control by an implant, hearing aid, some more complicated implants all make you a cyborg but usually not the cyborg one imagines
and a few ardiunos
Open source fitmware or nothing.
Fitmware = Wetware?
and strictly offline
You didn’t pay your subscription for your enhanced eyes, so you woke up blind this morning.
Nah, you get downgraded to the essentials plan: 20/40 eyesight, dry eyeballs, ads on your peripheral vision and random eye twitching throughout the day
Yeah, if everyone started turning into a cyborg, walking becomimg a subscription-based service would be just a question of time.
Jockey literally lost his exoskeleton due to end of life.
People with bionic eye implants are going blind again after the gadget expired inside their bodies. More than 350 people have a discontinued retinal implant in their eyeballs. The invention was once a cutting-edge option for restoring sight, but it has been replaced by newer technologies.
Yeah, plus the “cutting edge” prosthetic tech we currently have is mostly overhyped marketing.
There are about a dozen powered prosthetics I always see on social media that always look really cool and the “patients” always go on and on about how useful it is…What people don’t realize is those “patients” are being paid by the manufacturer, and usually part of the deal is that they get the limb for free.
They don’t tell you about having to wear a heavy battery pack that only lasts for a couple hours. They don’t tell you that you have to pre-program routines like tying your shoe laces. That you have to purposely concentrate on flexing residual muscle groups in your limb to activate those routines. Nor do they tell you that the majority of patients who own those devices usually revert back to a manual prosthetic for functional tasks, or just choose not to wear a prosthetic at all because they can achieve more function with their stumps.
While prosthetics have started looking more futuristic and functional, unfortunately we haven’t really advanced any technology that actually improves function and utility since the late 90’s. And I highly doubt we’ll ever make a prosthetic that provides more utility than the limb it’s replacing, not in our lifetime at least.
I remember many years ago there was some study being done into deer antler as a way to integrate implants with zero chance of rejection (something about deer antler being bone that penetrates through the skin without causing any problems), and something about using squid cartilage for implanting circuitry for similar reasons, but the coolest advancement that I’ve seen for prosthetics has been 3d printing.
I saw an open source project for 3d printing prosthetic limbs with a focus on making affordable prosthetics for kids since they grow so quickly they need new fittings quickly as well. And beyond that, I haven’t heard of pretty much anything new in easily decades. The fact that much of our prosthetics technology isn’t that different from what they had in the Civil War is sad.
saw an open source project for 3d printing prosthetic limbs with a focus on making affordable prosthetics for kids since they grow so quickly they need new fittings quickly as well.
Unfortunately 3d printing has mainly been a bit of a gimmick in the field of prosthetics, especially the more diy projects. Most people think that prosthetics is an engineering field with a side of medicine, when in reality it’s more of a medical field with a side of engineering.
The project you were referring to never really took off because it ended up being detrimental to the patient’s long-term health. With how quickly children adapt to their conditions, if you don’t provide them with a prosthetic that provides more utility than their residual limb, they end up adapting to never wearing any prosthetic. Which in turn can vastly lower their mobility and ability to interact with their environments.
The fact that much of our prosthetics technology isn’t that different from what they had in the Civil War is sad.
I wouldn’t say it’s quite that bad. I mean I did carve a wooden socket in school, but haven’t ever seen one in a clinic setting. Prosthetic tech really advanced in the 90s with the introduction of materials like carbon fiber, titanium, new thermoplastics, and advanced mechanical knee units. With the amount of repetitive ground force reaction a human body can produce in motions, our field is pretty limited by the advancement of material science.
Plus, a lot of them just end up being no longer supported at all. Oopsie your Planned Obsolescent Leg needs replacing again
Yeah, that can be an issue with some of the more advanced knee units and upper limb devices if they are being done by a private clinic and being purchased by a private insurance or a workers comp case.
Luckily Medicare and most Medicaid programs dictate that the clinic that fabricates the limb also maintains the limb until the patient qualifies for a new one.
Any cybernetics would have to be built for me by a hobbyist with a workshop full of Raspberry Pis or something
And by “or something,” you probably mean 3d printers.
there’s zero punk in our current society
Sweetie, we’re all being punks right now using pirate reddit. What’s more punk than undermining oligarch control of social platforms?
Frying their brains with our cyberdecks?
I honestly believe the closest thing to real world cyberpunk is the anti corporate / foss / selfhosted digital sovereignty “ideology” that lemmy coincidentally is a part of. For the rest, like cyberdecks and body augmentation we just have to wait a bit.
If you got a powerful tablet and installed Kali on it, isn’t that effectively a cyberdeck?
Depending on where you live, you can also have the cool neon aesthetic.
We also have killer robot dogs and illicit cloning labs irl now.
I like the word “burgerpunk” to describe our dystopia not as neon lights and cool sexy cyborgs but more the aesthetic of a DoorDash ad.
Amazing. What’s more burgerpunk than making AI images about burgerpunk game concept art?
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Not boring enough IMO.
True- not enough beige
Fuck, 2020 would have been so much more bearable if our food had been delivered by The Deliverator. You know, a highly qualified professional.
…Instead, in this region at least, the app economy bros employed a bunch of befuddled immigrants and also screwed them over contract-wise. So it’s the sad kind of cyberpunk, not the funny kind of cyberpunk
I hate it, but it’s perfect.
We already have cool cybernetic implants. We also have even cooler corporate greed and a massive lack of right-to-repair laws so that you can get stuck with a deactivated implant!
those cool cybernetic implants aren’t that cool imo
definitely seems like weve been ripped off
All of the bad stuff, none of the cool stuff.
70s, 80s and 90s were absolute peak Western world and we should go back there and live there forever.
inb4 life was worse because “insert irrelevant shit no one cares about here”
In Matrix the robots said that 1999 was the peak of human civilization, maybe they were into something.
Define “Western world”.
EU (including UK) + US + AUS + NZ.
