• ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    Pulling the ladder up behind you is something that happens pretty often in human history.

    That’s not to say it’s intrinsic to us or destined to happen. But “hurt people hurt people” is probably what causes that to manifest.

    In certain circumstances I bet most if not all of us would do it, too. A full life raft will swamp and kill everyone aboard if one more person gets on, for example. If there’s a guy trying to force his way on, what should the people on the boat do?

    There’s a fair amount of that misguided belief among some anti immigrant movements: “we’re full” or equivalent.

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    Because the regime is importing labour to suppress wages of domestic wage slaves.

    While also causing great stress on housing, education, healthcare systems which in turn has been wrecking QoL and social conditions over all.

    The regime is not investing in anything besides giving boomer SS and looting the rest.

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    2 months ago

    Anyone have that gif of Rupert Murdoch with a plate of cookies?

    Found it…

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      2 months ago

      As if that made a difference when the people being demonized were Italian or Irish. Immigrants have always been used as scapegoats in the US to divide the working class, even when they were white

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        Those groups were only “white” when “colored” people became the scapegoat. White supremacists still continue to shift the spectrum to treat their own better than “the other”.

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    when economy was based on number of farmers or number of factory workers (especially cheap ones) those in power loved them. But honestly even then they where treated as cheap labor not people. Ask Irish, Chinese, etc, etc…

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    As with many things, its complex. A couple reasons:

    • Propaganda on social media uses immigration as a wedge issue to divide people. For example, the Kremlin wants to get people angry about immigration AND angry about people trying to stop immigration. “They’re coming to eat your pets” and “anti-immigrant peoppe are all hateful racists”
    • The planet is overpopulated. We’re running out of land and resources, and that makes people worried and protective of their territory.
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      Yup, immigrants were often effectively scabs. Brought in to suppress wages and unions. Harder to form a union when everyone speaks different languages

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    Because immigrant from, say, Islamic countries behave differently than those from, say, Vietnam.

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      Two questions:

      • Can you justify this position in any way that wouldn’t be fundamentally racist?
      • How does this answer the question at hand at all?
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        Literally the largest mass shooting was Pulse Nightclub, which was an Islamic shooting. So yes.

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    2 months ago

    Convenient scapegoat. What is easier to admit, that we are causing our own problems by not addressing new challenges appropriately, or pointing a finger at an outside group and going “their fault!”.

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      Basically this in every capacity.

      Immigrants are easy to hate and kick out. They are already probably vulnerable as a group, so kicking them while they are down while screaming, “YOU DON’T EVEN BELONG HERE!” makes emotionally immature people feel like they regaining control and protecting their country. This however has nothing to do with the other. Societies where racism begins to thrive will pick any vulnerable group. In Nazi Germany, it was the Jews. In China, it’s the Uyghurs. In many European countries, it’s the immigrants.

      What exacerbates this further is that hating on immigrants (or any vulnerable group) worsens their conditions which makes it easier to point the finger and blame them for crime or lack of resources. Rinse and repeat. The spiral continues. The racists get more validation after pushing the immigrants down, and the immigrants become more frustrated with a country that doesn’t value their taxes and contributions.

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        Humans.

        The current western political landscape is not the first time immigrants have been a political scapegoat. This has been a recurring theme for thousands of years.

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          Society as whole are bunch of powerless wage slaves, we don’t make any real decisions.

          Decisions are made the ruling class.

          We are not the same