• squid_slime@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    NanoGPT? What’s special about it? Is mining the nano coin used to create the AIs responses or is it just a crypto skin on top. If the latter we can self host AI.

    But beyond that many dislike crypto for gas cost and same for AI so strapping them together is way less palatable.

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      1 month ago

      It’s just used as a means of payment for very small amounts, even less than a single cent if you calculate in dollars.

      If the latter we can self host AI.

      Sure you can; I certainly can’t, lacking the equipment, and the investment would be much higher than any return on it.

      But beyond that many dislike crypto for gas cost and same for AI so strapping them together is way less palatable.

      Nano, as I said, has no fees, and there’s no miners, it’s quite ecologically friendly. It does have other challenges (for example only being pseudonymous and fully traceable, plus fighting spam is an ongoing battle, no standard way of association a payment with an invoice). But I always liked its premise and it does make sense for such cases for me.

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        1 month ago

        So if I made a confident AI and hosted it on a website you could visit, you buy my tokens $5 for 5 tokens, responses priced at .01 tokens. Essentially its very cheap.

        Would you be as likely to use this service?

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          I mean if it’s competitive, why not?

          The thing is it’s unlikely you’d find a payment provider making this viable. For example, PayPal charges 49 US cents as a minimum fee, or 39 Eurocents. Even just credit card companies charge 5 cents fixed, so cheap payment processors will charge you about 10 cents per transaction plus variable rates and possibly a monthly fee.

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            1 month ago

            True but these companies are gate keeper that also work with fiet to crypto so its just moving the issue. If I want to convert my British pounds I will be charged even if I sent it physically. How do you buy nano coin?

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              It’s true that you need to factor in the conversion fees. The same however is true, maybe for a smaller fee, when converting between fiat currencies, though my bank is usually pretty fair. Other providers - again PayPal being an offender and often ATM operators - will often have worse rates.

              NanoGPT itself doesn’t sell crypto I think, they include sellers for convenience. I provided mine years ago on Kraken which is a market exchange.

              For testing, I just transferred 0.1 XNO to them, which arrived basically instantly without fees, it was credited to the wallet before I switched back windows to my browser.

              I’ll try a prompt and get back here if you want? I mean this is not really the core of the discussion but for completion’s sake…

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                So entry cost is the kicker, like for myself I don’t have any crypto, or at least crypto I can access (lost my monero keys) so for me to use nano I would still need to face conversion fees.

                Tbh I hear about speeds but I’ve not had issues of slow transfers when it comes to fiat.

                Sure, is it comparable to open AIs chatgpt?

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                  1 month ago

                  If you want, I’ll send you some to an address of your choosing; you can just use nault.cc as a wallet.

                  Due to how the site works, you can choose what model etc. they have without ever sending them any money.

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                    1 month ago

                    Lol that picture is good but the little girl has a baby hand. That’s very nice of you but I won’t deprive you of your coins, another time maybe