I keep seeing this everywhere, and I had to go to Great lengths to remove co-pilot from my windows 11 on my current PC once I upgraded. Had to use a bloatware removal script to forcibly get that thing the hell off there. Now I’m seeing ads on Amazon and other places about PCs being bundled with copilot AI. I have tried using co-pilot myself, it is completely worthless. That thing is a hot piece of garbage, and somehow, works even worse than chat GPT. Like, that is truly impressive, because Chat GPT has degraded in quality over time and now they are in the news often for various controversies, the latest being a complaint about how they can’t survive without stealing copyrighted content…
Who in their right mind is hoping to get a copilot powered PC???
The Lemmy user base is so out of touch with the average consumer.
^^This, So Much This^^
Your average person wants a magic box that will give them what they’re looking for. They don’t care who know’s what about them, as long as it’s not creepy in their face. When they say Honey, what do you think about tacos tonight and all of a sudden, all ads are for Taco Bell; that’s too far.
They don’t know that Google has made search shittier so they can sell more ads or move people into training AI’s for their purchasing tastes. More importantly, they don’t care. If you put up a check box that says remember all the shit you search for and try to make better guesses about what you’re looking for and have give you better ads, most people would check it.
Grandma wants to know that old Christmas raisin cookie recipe and what to do when you hands start hurting. Dad wants to know how to watch Youtube on Roku without Ads and mom want to know how many seasons of Scandal there are. If Google search has gone to shit and AI delivers all that to them, they’ll all take it.
Me, I came to Lemmy to get away from the algorithms. I use newpipe mainly to get rid of the doomscroll. I don’t want suggestions. I don’t want to swipe on TikTok training it to spoonfeed me 30 second clips. The average consumer? They don’t care about any of that. Whatever it takes to CONSUME.
Yeah, same as Reddit really. I don’t know how many times I saw Reddit comments or posts with “everyone knows”. The reality is that if you took enough time and interest to join an online forum about something, you’ve gone deeper than most people.
I mean yes but in the case no.
Most customers are not demanding it.
Do you mean out of touch as in unaware or diverging opinions?
To be fair, the average consumer is a lazy, complacent, unaware fucking dumbass.
I’m sure that kind of discourse will persuade them not to use AI.
It’s not meant to. It’s just an assessment.
Well as long as we know the ship is sinking around us, we don’t need to know why or do anything about it.
That’s not untrue though. The number of times the average consumer has over corrected to only put themselves into a position where they over correct yet again is sobering.
I’m not dissing AI or the average consumer, I’m just saying they often paint their asses into a corner over and over again only to complain when they paint themselves into a corner.
Number of times I’ve heard people complain about having to pay the monthly price for iCloud is a non-zero number. But then you suggest getting a phone with an SD slot and they’re aghast that you’d suggest them giving up their blue bubbles. They hate ads on their Smart TV but how would they watch their Disney+ without a Smart TV? I’ve got a CVS receipt sized list of things consumers complain about that consumers wanted but now find themselves in the awkward position of “not like this.”
C’est la vie. But there’s not going to be any kind of discourse that’s going to prevent folks shooting themselves in the foot. All we can do is just present some other options for when they inevitably have a bloody stump where their foot used to be. They’re going to use AI no matter what and eventually they’ll be wondering how their back is against the wall with all this paint surrounding them. Yet again.
I don’t think there’s any point any trying to persuade them of anything really. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. So yeah, the average consumer is completely going to snag these shit PCs up in droves, they also are going to eventually regret that, but that’s a future them problem apparently.
You and the person you replied to are correct.
I love how 70% of subsequent comments are tech savvy Lemmings describing what average users are really like, based on how in touch with them they are.
It’s self-selecting. In order to be here in the first place, you have to give a shit enough to ignore the big corporate social media sites in favor of finding and using this one.
This is probably true. I don’t know many people who aren’t super heavy into tech, I’ve had a gaming PC half my life, but I do have a couple friends who don’t even have a laptop, PC, computer, or anything. They just have a phone. I don’t know how they get by.