The first real money I ever made from game development was on Android. It was in 2013, when Android was still the underdog compared to the iPhone, and was being touted as a great platform for developers.
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Even though the title says “my”, this is not my blogpost.
While that may be just some paperwork and a small expense, the next requirement is more insidious: “a phone number and email address for Google Play users to contact you”. I’m fine showing an email address, but I absolutely do not want my phone number to be available to anyone on the internet. (Even for phone calls. But remember that a phone number is used for much more than phone calls these days.) And that’s just me, a privileged hetero white cis dude who is unlikely to be the target of harassment or doxxing.
Yup. For small developers (FOSS or not) that don’t make money that can insulate them from this kind of stuff, it’s a no-no.
You can get a phone number for a little more than a dollar a month at OVH. You can just redirect all call to voicemail and check once or twice a month and call it the day.
just have the voicemail say “this mailbox is rarely monitored and is here as a requirement for google play services; a better way of getting support is available at X”
It’s also extremely anti-consumer to not offer any support. Which is likely the primary reason that Google is requiring this. There are so many apps out there that don’t have any means of support, it’s one of my primary complaints about google play, so many abandonwares or apps that were clearly put on there as a send and done with no intent to actually use them.
That’s not better. It is not OK to have a phone number published that is not monitored regularly, no matter what message you leave when they call it.
You should have a legitimate contact method, but it is not acceptable behavior to publish a contact method that isn’t handled appropriately. Publishing a number that always goes to voice mail is already really bad.
Which is why requiring a number isn’t OK. But the minute you make a phone number available to customers, it cannot be acceptable not to treat it like a phone number.
iPhone already has a lot of apps that aren’t worth the effort to make available for Android, and this is going to make that meaningfully worse.
How about you post your phone number here? It seems you have no problem in sharing someone share their number in public, and I hope you put the same srandard to yourself.
It’s no different than companies like Microsoft, you have their phone number that’s a literal support line that says hey go to the website sometimes without even indicating where on the website that you go to.
I ran into that twice while dealing with an activation issue and a hardware purchase issue last year, their phone support will lead you in circles until eventually you hit a voicemail that says please go to this page. In one case it gave the location, in the other it said “this support is available on the Microsoft store website at” and it just gave you the store launchpage for ms store
Honestly it just depends on the definition of invalid, it’s still giving you information on where you need to go so it still gives you more information than when you started it’s not like it just leaves you to a dead end number, now what some other people were proposing which is a virtual number and then just toss the phone after that I don’t agree with. Nor do I agree with a number that doesn’t give any info aside from just hanging up or endlessly ringing
Yup. For small developers (FOSS or not) that don’t make money that can insulate them from this kind of stuff, it’s a no-no.
You can get a phone number for a little more than a dollar a month at OVH. You can just redirect all call to voicemail and check once or twice a month and call it the day.
That would be “accepting the premise of assholes” as Louis Rossman would say.
OK, then you’re being really sketchy and screwing over customers.
Not publishing a phone number is perfectly fine. Publishing a phone number that’s a black hole is extremely anti-consumer.
Stupid rules are beat by malicious compliance
just have the voicemail say “this mailbox is rarely monitored and is here as a requirement for google play services; a better way of getting support is available at X”
It’s also extremely anti-consumer to not offer any support. Which is likely the primary reason that Google is requiring this. There are so many apps out there that don’t have any means of support, it’s one of my primary complaints about google play, so many abandonwares or apps that were clearly put on there as a send and done with no intent to actually use them.
That’s not better. It is not OK to have a phone number published that is not monitored regularly, no matter what message you leave when they call it.
You should have a legitimate contact method, but it is not acceptable behavior to publish a contact method that isn’t handled appropriately. Publishing a number that always goes to voice mail is already really bad.
Shut the fuck up. There’s no reason anyone buying a game on Google ever has to call you.
Full stop.
No shit?
Which is why requiring a number isn’t OK. But the minute you make a phone number available to customers, it cannot be acceptable not to treat it like a phone number.
iPhone already has a lot of apps that aren’t worth the effort to make available for Android, and this is going to make that meaningfully worse.
How about you post your phone number here? It seems you have no problem in sharing someone share their number in public, and I hope you put the same srandard to yourself.
You should really work on your reading comprehension. I have repeatedly made it clear that the requirement is not OK.
It’s no different than companies like Microsoft, you have their phone number that’s a literal support line that says hey go to the website sometimes without even indicating where on the website that you go to.
I ran into that twice while dealing with an activation issue and a hardware purchase issue last year, their phone support will lead you in circles until eventually you hit a voicemail that says please go to this page. In one case it gave the location, in the other it said “this support is available on the Microsoft store website at” and it just gave you the store launchpage for ms store
“I’m only as much of a piece of shit as Microsoft” isn’t a good defense.
There is no possible scenario where publicizing an invalid contact method is defensible behavior.
Honestly it just depends on the definition of invalid, it’s still giving you information on where you need to go so it still gives you more information than when you started it’s not like it just leaves you to a dead end number, now what some other people were proposing which is a virtual number and then just toss the phone after that I don’t agree with. Nor do I agree with a number that doesn’t give any info aside from just hanging up or endlessly ringing