• magic_lobster_party@kbin.run
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    I think this is a bit disingenuous. There’s no customer interaction in these panels.

    So waterfall would be:

    Customer says they want to go to Mars.

    You spend years building a rocket capable of going to Mars, draining all the company budget in the process.

    Customer then clarifies they actually meant they wanted to go to Mars, Pennsylvania, USA - not the planet!

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      Also the strip stops midway through as Waterfall was an invented thing just for a paper. And during your UP work you actually had the customer put in that input and hence it was like in this cartoon strip.

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    This is waterfall method propaganda! It never works out this smoothly. They probably forgot important requirements like: the astronauts need to be alive on Mars.

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      NASA also built the space shuttle, which was a plane that couldn’t fly by itself (as it was supposed to), was slower to turn around and more expensive than older equivalent technologies, and blew up all the astronauts 1.5% of the time.

      I mean, they’re great at other things - who else could have made the JWST work flawlessly with one opportunity - but they’re a definite source of hype, and they do something very particular and specialised. Beware endorsements.

      Edit: Fuck you, I’m right. Keep 'em coming.

      I don’t even care about Agile either way. This just isn’t a good argument for it.

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          Yep. They’re probably better than anyone at making a complex system with literal moving parts that works 100% of the time, the first time. On a nearly unlimited budget, with a decades-long schedule. In an institution and culture that’s now a been around a lifetime, staffed with top-notch people.

          That’s all perfect for what NASA does, but I wouldn’t recommend a management system that NASA uses to just anyone, just 'cause “da astronauts” use it. Not any more than I’d recommend drinking your own distilled piss to anyone.

          I don’t really have an opinion on Agile, even, I just have a problem with selling it this way.

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      Going to the moon as a step towards going to Mars is so eminently correct that this comic should actually be Agile propaganda

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    What is the methodology called where you:

    Plan to go to orbit, blow up seconds into the flight, and declare it a success.

    Plan to refuel in orbit, make it minutes before the rocket brakes. Fire the FTS, it fails, the rocket blows up a minute later und declare it a successful test of the FTS.

    Argue to NASA that you are not the limiting factor to the moon mission planed for the end of the year, despite delivering none of the milestones.

    FTS = flight termination system

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    The art style is nice but the content makes no sense. Kanban and scrum are parts of agile. They are not their own systems.

    Lean also doesn’t mean you have no money. It’s a system of manufacturing where you cross train people to do the jobs on either side of them so they can pick up slack if needed and keep things moving without hiring more people.

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    Waterfall method: talk about building a rocket for 5 years, build the rocket, rocket needs to be totally redesigned because we forgot to put a place for people to go - massive change reqeust, build new version. Project Delay: 27 years

    Agile Method: a rocket is not software - do not use Agile

    Kanban - kanban is agile

    Scrum - scrum . . is also Agile. What are you doing, go back and do the waterfall one