• Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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    2 months ago

    They have it’s very easy there are free programs that monitor all data traffic.

    This claim that Facebook listens to you on your phone has been around for years. It has been investigated numerous times and has never turned out to be true. Until recently the processing capacity required would have been insane and you would have an incredibly high noise to signal ratio. It’s just not an economical way of gathering data for advertising.

    Why bother anyway when people put their entire lives on Facebook, for free, in easily processable text?

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      Your phone/plan carrier using voice data to make a marketing profile is well documented actually. This data is purchased and verified and resold by meta, or in some cases bought and used by alphabet for GAS. Cacti can show you outgoing data for every device on a network, and you can see data being sent from a phone in signed packets going to your carrier when you’re not “actively using” it. It seems like you know about network monitoring tools but you haven’t actually used them, just talked about them in reference to data collection.

      “Why buy the cow” here is also easily answered: not everyone uses Facebook, a fair number of users will deactivate their facebook page but continue to use messenger.

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        So what you’re saying is the biggest companies like Amazon, Google, ChatGPT, etc… can’t perfect voice dictation when I’m talking directly and clearly to my device, but this company has been able to figure it out. And doing it while hiding from the smartphone OS that it’s doing it. While the device is at a distance/hidden in my pocket. And is using it just to sell ads.

        👍

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              I asked because it was nonsensical and could have been funny if you were imitating the typical internet child comment but here we are with you making no sense and me disappointed

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                  Hey! You can’t read after all! Rember when I explicitly posted that you can sniff packets going to your phone provider and not these companies? You have zero reading comprehension and a bad attitude, and it’s obvious you’re more interested in being right than being correct. If googling unrelated drivel articles to a discussion gets you off, you do you I guess

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                    I’m sorry I proved you wrong to the point you had to resolve yourself to personal attacks. Do you feel better now?

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        And you have yet to provide any evidence for your belief.

        I want evidence please provide me evidence or shut the hell up because all you’re doing is perpetuating a prejudice against Facebook, which isn’t unjustified, but is totally without any kind of basis in reality.

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            Yeah, with lots of leaked customer data. Nothing about using voice data to make a marketing profile. Unless there is a second leak I don’t know about.

            But judging by your inability to link it you just made it up.

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      Because people’s (presumed private) conversations on Messenger are not the same thing as things people post publicly.

      Personally, I would never install that malware on my phone. But if you even have FB Messenger installed on your device, chances are that it’s constantly sending your data to Facebook. Go take a look at what permissions it “needs.”

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        We can see what it’s sending to facebook though, and it’s not constant. There’s a bunch that it does send and receive, but this isn’t hypothetical speculation, like, we can just see that it’s not using your microphone for that, or sending anything like audio data. You can check this yourself, wireshark is free and packet specifications are available.