Who is surprised?

    • doctortofu@reddthat.com
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      2 months ago

      To be honest, they probably are. My pretty theory is that they’re trying to do what do many politicians are doing - drive away everyone but the strongest base electorate that will stay with them no matter what they do. And then, the grift starts. I’m reasonably sure sooner rather than later they’ll start charging a subscription fee to use Windows, and people and companies will bend over and pay it…

      • m-p{3}@lemmy.ca
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        2 months ago

        It’s like the Picard Maneuver, but where you just warp straight in front of your enemy while simultaneously shitting yourself.

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      2 months ago

      There was a time when they did try to listen. Since 11 was being imagined, it all was downhill. I used to work for them and all messaging changed once 11 was being worked on

    • normalexit@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      They will certainly succeed at driving some people away. I was a lifetime Windows user and I currently don’t have it installed on any of my machines now. I think the average Joe is blissfully unaware other than the occasional dialog about a new feature coming their way.

      I think they are going to lose more of the hardcore tech community with decisions like these, but I don’t know that they care.

      • Demdaru@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        I hate being bothered. Linux, while overall almost botherless, still looses to windows.

        But damn me, when Win 10 loses support, I am jumping to nobara. Win 11 seems to be win 10 with every addon being something I harbor dislike for.

        • PhreakyByNature@feddit.uk
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          2 months ago

          I do like the convenience of Windows and I’m still on W10, when it loses support I’ll be switching to Linux too.

        • Kroxx@lemm.ee
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          2 months ago

          Linux, while overall almost botherless, still looses to windows.

          Been using mint for around 2 months and I would say this is pretty accurate. Pretty much every game I play works out of the box. Discord however crashes the whole system sometimes and I can’t figure out why. Would still recommend Linux over windows but you will for sure encounter more issues.

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        2 months ago

        In most situations i agree with you, but i think when it comes to the purchase of techie things (like which computers and OS a company should use) then the opinion of techies matters. Their opinion may not matter as much as it should, but in aggregate over time it can cause large changes in purchasing decisions

      • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        but the “hardcore tech community” guys are the IT guys of all companies. so this means a lot of the people who are in IT related meetings and have a say in which OSes to install will now be opposed to Win11. A lot will probably suggest waiting to hopefully be able to skip 11, but some will choose alternatives.

        • Deceptichum@quokk.au
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          2 months ago

          News flash, a lot of the hardcore tech community already used Linux and would’ve pushed for it in related meetings.

          Using Windows isn’t a sign of advocacy, it’s a sign of legacy. Companies don’t want to swap and change things.

          • Soup@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            Right but if Windows is now becoming a problem then it’s a start. And so many software developers I know use MacBooks for their job and say that they’re just better for the work. Microsoft is hoping that the fear of change means they can do whatever they want, if they even have any thoughts in their thick heads at all that is, and don’t seem to realize that at some point even the most devoted users will have to face the fact that there are better options.

            Fuck Windows, it’s such an ass product that’s only selling point right now that some key products don’t work on anything else simply because the developers of them don’t want to do the work and not because it has some magic sauce that a Mac or Linux machine doesn’t.