• stardust@lemmy.ca
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      4 months ago

      I think most countries spy on their citizens and a lot of the same countries probably don’t want other countries doing the same due to possible unwanted intel leaks in government and corporate sectors.

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          Not saying it is okay. Pointing out that even if hypocritical there’s generally a strategic reason for countries to deter international spying. Would be quite a puzzling decision for any country to provide an open door for other countries to spy on them.

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              Trying to set barriers seems logical when it comes to outsiders. But, spying by its nature is constant attempts to sneak past barriers, so attempts aren’t going to stop. It’d just be called collaboration instead of spying if information was shared freely and spying would be unnecessary.

              Maybe we have a different definition of deter. I don’t see it as stop, but trying to make it less easier. Why would spies stop trying to spy? I don’t expect that number to change. If it did that would be some pitiful spies.

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                It’d just be called collaboration instead of spying

                Happens all the time, the NSA can’t spy on US citizens to it asks GCHQ to do it for them, and vice-versa.

                Kaspersky’s software had been known for flagging US 3-letter-agencies’ malware, so there’s that…

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      On the other hand if the number keeps going down it helps strengthen hope that it can go down to 0. When these things happen some apparatus gets left behind on how to do it a again for rogue actors inside the country too.

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        The funny thing is, that whole thing just proved that the spying didn’t work. Trump was still almost killed. So the spying and mass surveillance did still not prevent that.

        I guess they should stop violating everybody’s privacy, but obviously they don’t care.