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At least Skull And Bones is a AAAA game smh my head
The last Ubisoft game I purchased was Cliffs over Dover.
Even tho mario kart is and probably will be an extremely fun game, its still such a fucking scam. Im gonna buy a switch 2 but to be fair i skipped the switch because i suspected at the release that there will be backwards compatibility and seems like i was right. Even tho i only have a gba and 3ds and then the switch 2 ill buy, i can basically play the entire handheld line of games that nintendo released. This was my tactic but im still dissapointed at the prices even tho i skipped a gen.
i suspected at the release that there will be backwards compatibility
I suspect that they will make you pay for the backwards (enhanced) compatibility.
Eh, there‘s some truth to either one. Game development is expensive and pricing hasn’t kept up with inflation ($60 in 2010 are almost $90 today). But also, games are ridiculously expensive at full price, especially in todays economy and especially if they’re as badly received as Skull and Bones, while Nintendo games are at the very least usually pretty decent.
I’d recommend voting with your wallet and only buying games on sale or used. Just wait a little. (Or pirate them, if you can live with not supporting the developers at all).
Yes, but the difference is that wages have not significantly gone up since then apart from minimum wage in a few states. That is the difference. People are literally poorer because of the massively increased wealth inequality coming from employers shoving down wages while making yearly record profits…
If peoples’ purchasing power is more or less the same, factoring in inflation to game prices would result in a ton of people simply not being able to buy “luxury goods” like video games.
Game dev salaries have increased roughly in line with inflation though, so development time still costs the studio the same as 15 years ago, while AAA game prices are only now starting to surpass the $70 mark with games not generally surpassing the $60 mark until 2020.
It’s a wonder, they haven’t increased to prices any sooner, as much as I‘d like them staying where they were.
And again: if you don’t like the prices, vote with your wallet, buy used or on sale or don’t pay at all.
“games are ridiculously expensive at full price”
A board game with paper and plastic pieces can range from 12-45 dollars
People will go spend $20 at the movies for 1 night
Hell I’ll pay 100 if it’s a good game
I have 1200 hours in Overwatch. $60 (free now). I have paid 5 cents per hour to play it. I am completely happy with my purchase even though it’s free now.
If the game isn’t worth it, don’t get it. But to complain about it is ridiculous.
Some N64 games were $50-$60 dollars back in the 90’s
I feel like we are fortunate
I agree with this. I have quite a few games I paid 60 dollars for that per hour entertainment makes it insanely cheap. Smaller cheaper indie games are even cheaper per hour.
It does suck though paying full price for something that will not fulfill that. I bought star wars outlaws or whatever for half price. I knew it wasn’t good but man it was worse than I expected. Not with the price to me even though I probably played 10 hours or so. I read some reviews but I should’ve read more.
To be fair, asking that much for Skull & Bones really is taking the piss…
This isnt really on topic but what we wanted was a more realistic Sea of Thieves and Skull and Bones was like ship arena battles, it was bad.
It’s funny, because I actually enjoy the less realistic versions, like ship of fools. Void crew was fun and all, but didn’t tickle my biscuit enough. Sea of thieves was just sort of… boring. It took too long to get into the fun, and then the fun was over too quickly.
sure, but that doesnt even mention the difference in quality and value that the pile of dogshit “pirate game” has compared to the latest innovative mario kart.
unpopular opinion: the quality of Nintendo games are worth the cost of admission, and they know it. there are very few bad nintendo games.
super hype to play the new Mario kart for years like I did with 8
I have played a couple when someone has brought a switch over. They are ok but you can fuck off if you think I would pay £90 on it. Even £30 and I would look at something else.
More likely to get a steam deck instead. There are plenty of incredibly high quality games there that cost so much less. Just don’t buy games on their launch week to avoid the crap. Wait until it’s well reviewed and been out for a while.
that’s fair! i feel safe justifying my purchase when it comes to mario kart (I’ve purchased every one since the snes) and the already highly reviewed tears of the kingdom, so they’ll be getting my cash launch day lol
latest innovative mario kart.
This is literally the Cars videogame but with Nintetendo IP and Nintendo Proprietary TCP pos p2p online multiplayer.
I used to play that game for free with my friends at the local library 2 decades ago.
Genuine question: How is MarioKart 10 different from MarioKart 9? Or 7? Or 4?
I still haven’t gotten an answer to how BotW innovated open world except for a list of features that were already in other games.
I remeber seeing my lifelong, die hard Nintendo fan brother, play BotW.
After watching for about 30 minutes, I said something like ‘oh neat, its like an open world, version of a Zelda game, with more voice acting, open world item durability mechanics, and Garry’s Mod style physics/build nonsense!’
I meant it in earnest. I did think this was neat, though maybe the item durabilty values or mechanics could have been tweaked a bit, seems like you often spend a bunch of time just re-grinding for good weapons that break too fast, with no straightforward repair mechanic.
But he thought this was entirely an insult.
He rarely played non Nintendo games, hated online multiplayer and never played an open world survival craft game, had never played GMod, and seemed to actually think these were all revolutionary game design concepts.
Meanwhile I’d been a mostly PC gamer since like 2003, played too much GMod, DayZ (back when it was an Arma 2 mod), and had even written some fairly comprehensive game modes (mods, basically?) for GMod, and had… just in general played a much wider variety of games.
When he decided to finally get a gaming laptop, he found Black Mesa when it formally, fully released for $$$, and he entirely did not believe me when I said that I had actually chatted with some of their dev team before, waaaay back when Black Mesa was just an insane dream of a bunch of HL2 adjacent dorks, many of whom talked and argued on ModDB and the old Facepunch forums before Garry nuked them.
… He also did not believe me when I told him I actually met, and took a picture with Ashley Burch at PAX, back when she was just Ash from ‘Hey Ash Watcha Playin?’, waaay before she became the voice of Aloy, and she and her brother did panels at PAX.
Same with Jonathan Coulton, the guy who wrote the ending songs for Portal and Portal 2, which my brother now finally discovered in like … 2022? When he finally got a gaming laptop.
I had the pictures, from a decade ago at that point, but he was so convinced I was lying he wouldn’t even look at them.
Pretty much haha.
I have distinct memories of… actually having to look away when Alyx first gets sent through Kleiner’s teleport in the beginning of HL2…
Because my piece of crap eMachine could not handle the scene, when your view is centered on Alyx.
It would ctd every single time time, the 100% reliable work around was to look at the ground before the screen flashing/color inversion thing happens… I’m pretty sure my rig just could not handle that ‘negative’ effect on top of the … bloomy, glowing sparks/lightning from the teleporter, at the same time.
Other than only that scene in particular, the game ran well, lol.
Not played it but didn’t it just put them together well? Rather than specifically innovating too much on its own
I can agree on that, but I just don’t think touting that as being a major innovation that changed the face of gaming like many people do is appropriate.
Look, if I have to pay $80 for Kirby Air Ride 2, I will pay $80 for Kirby Air Ride 2.
Every time I tell myself I am not buying a Switch 2 because the games are too damn expensive and I already own a Legion Go for hand-held gaming, I remember that Kirby Air Riders will exist and I become the angry, arms crossed “WELL, FINE!” guy.
That said, City Trial mode or I riot.
City trial alone is the only thing that might convince me to buy a switch 2 if they have a decent sale on.
Otherwise I’m happy waiting a few years to buy a cheap one second hand.
what about piracy?
Or just go back and play all the games from the 90’s tag you missed when they first came out.
There is do much retro content, by the time I get to Switch 2 content, it’ll be retro too
People really don’t seem to understand that video game prices have not kept up with inflation. It’s why I didn’t bat an eye at spending $70 on Baldur’s Gate 3 despite the original costing like $50. When you account for inflation, it’s actually cheaper.
That said, I avoid Nintendo on principle. Refusing to sell old games so that they can use people who pirate them is ghoulish and inhuman. As long as Gary Bowser is forced to pay them, I never will.
That’s a terrible argument. Gary was selling their games. Any company was going to go after someone doing such a thing.
Gary was modifying hardware that people owned. That the modifications he was doing allowed for the play of pirated games is not in itself piracy. Besides, there is no fucking way he personally cost them enough money to justify having to pay them 30% of every dollar he makes for the rest of his life.
The expandinon ofmarket, competition and the cheaper methods of distribution.
An expanding market and competition don’t change the fact that prices go up when prices go up. I suppose I can grant that it’s cheaper to sell ones and zeros over the internet than it is to ship a bunch of discs to every GameStop. But still, physical manufacturing and distribution make up a small percentage of the price of a game
Game companies can get my sympathy when wages begin to keep up with inflation. Otherwise, it belongs to the pirates and emus. You can “it’s not their fault” all the way to “doesn’t matter, it’s still my problem”.
It’s not that Mario Kart is worth 90, it’s that a lot of these AAA games aren’t worth 60.
Well, and also Mario Kart isn’t worth $90
it’s worth $40 at best imo
Pre switch it was 40$, we saw the sign when SWSH was 60$+ DLC
While I am not okay with the game price hike, you’re comparing genuine dog shit to actual good games. It’s like asking why anyone would ever order a steak when they can just go to McDonald’s. Sure they’re both food, but they’re not really comprable.
That said, I am not trying to justify Nintendo’s pricing. They’re asking for too much of a leap (+50%!!!) in too short of a time frame. But this meme is a bad argument.
Keep consuming and keep the enshitification machine working, you control everything around you with your wallet and your attention.
These companions took ahold of both and now you’re a slave.
A bit of an exaggeration. Your wallet speaks, sure. But I haven’t been to a lot of places in years, some even for decades and they’re still doing just fine. I didn’t buy any Nintendo console from the NES until I got a Wii paying half with a friend.
With the switch 2 coverage, this is something that bugs me quite a bit… Not the meme, Nintendo games, by comparison, are worth more than the slop that Ubisoft craps out. No matter how good a Ubisoft game could be, Nintendo has them beat in terms of quality.
Back to my point. The cost of games is insane. The price point for most video game systems is around $500 USD. Whether PS5, Xbox, switch, whatever, they’re all either at or near, $500.
You buy 6 games, and you’ve spent more in games than you did on your console. The fuck is this? We might as well go back to the days when you would buy a whole ass console that could only play a single (or small selection) of games like the Coleco Telstar.
I think they figured out that you make money from selling the add-ons, so they dipped the price of the console and jacked up the cost of all of the games so they could increase profits and shareholder value.
Oh wait.
the slop that Ubisoft craps out
I’d, uh, argue there are some exceptions, like the better asscreed games or the anno series.
Which is also why anyone who says consoles are better is straight clowning tbh
Game consoles are sold at a loss. You are supposed to buy more games than the console costs.
Here is a nice little inflation chart I’ve assembled:
You people are upset about (analogy) gas being 5.31 a gallon when you should be upset that you don’t make enough to afford gas at 5.31 a gallon. You should make enough to afford a $450 switch 2, and the fact that you don’t is because your masters have been stealing from you for 30+ years. Or since forever, if you’re as woke as me.
NES
1985 $179 -> 2025 $528
Games $49.99 -> $147SNES
1991 $199 -> 2025 $464
Games $49.99 -> $116
Super Mario All-Stars $59.99 -> $140N64
1996 $199 -> 2025 $403
Games $59.99 -> $121GameCube
2001 $199 -> 2025 $355
Games $49.99 -> $89Gameboy
1989 $89.99 -> 2025 $230
Games $29.99 -> $76Gameboy Advance
2001 $99.99 -> 2025 $178
Games $34.99 -> $62Nintendo DS
2004 $149.99 -> 2025 $251
Games $29.99 -> $50Playstation 1
1995 $299 -> 2025 $622
Games $49.99 -> $104Playstation 2
2000 $299 -> 2025 $552
Games $49.99 -> $92X-Box
2001 $299 -> 2025 $535
Games $49.99 -> $89Sega Genesis
1989 $189 -> 2025 $483
Games $59.99 -> $153Sega Dreamcast
1999 $199 -> 2025 $380
Games $49.99 -> $95
I’m a big Nintendo apologist. I’ve argued in the past that their consoles are the only ones worth buying over a gaming PC (not including Steamdeck there), and while I have never defend their terrible IP practices, I have been willing to overlook them and continue buying their products. This shit is indefensible. The price hike would be back enough, but killing off physical games is a disgrace. Nintendo fans should be angrier than everyone else, not defending this shit.
I’ve always felt the other way around: If you’re trying to sell me games, make them for PC. I’m not buying a new device just for Mario
I actually like Nintendo’s devices, though. Sony and Microsoft produce basically the same product every generation, but Nintendo usually tries something different. But $80 games with no physical option is fucking disgusting. I’m pretty sure they’ve decided that physical media is a threat to their abusive IP practices, and their going to finally destroy game preservation once and for all. This is the final straw for me; I’ll just pirate anything I want going forward.
Don’t get me wrong, I dislike other gaming consoles too. Why would I buy a device that I don’t really own, i.e. the manufacturer can pull the rug from under it at any time and render it completely useless? I get your point about ‘innovative’ designs. But then they should sell the device separately and allow the user to with it as they please (see steam deck).
Why would I buy a device that I don’t really own, i.e. the manufacturer can pull the rug from under it at any time and render it completely useless?
Yeah, this is why I’m so fucking pissed about the lack of non-digital games. I understand that games have tons of updates, and that the idea of a physical game has been declining for years, but there was at least still a physical, 1.0 version of a Nintendo game I could buy and play on my Switch. If Nintendo no longer sells that product, they no longer have a product I want.
That’s because Nintendo makes the best games
