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    32 minutes ago

    Apparantly their trying to get Deepseek banned again, really doesn’t like competition this guy.

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    Perhaps this is just a problem with the way the model works. Always requiring new data and unable to use current data, to ponder and expand upon while making new connections about ideas that influenced the author… LLM’s are a smoke and mirrors show, not a real intelligence.

    • 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.ee
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      They do seem fundamentally limited somehow. With all the bazillion watts they are cheap imitation at best compared to mere 20 Watts of human brain

  • glitchdx@lemmy.world
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    The only way this would be ok is if openai was actually open. make the entire damn thing free and open source, and most of the complaints will go away.

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      Truly open is the only way LLMs make sense.

      They’re using us and our content openly. The relationship should be reciprocal. Now, they need to somehow keep the servers running.

      Perhaps a SETI like model?

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        I mean, make em non profit (or not for profit) and perfecly good with that. Also open source the model so I can run it on my own hardware if I want to.

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            I hate zuckerburg as much as anyone, but I find his face surprisingly low on the punchability index. Musk and Bezos at 1 and 2 for me.

            • Ketram@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Zuck is, however, at the top of the list for lizard person index.

              Bezos has such a shit-eating grin. Really makes him infinitely more punchable

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                oh zuck is such a lizard-person.

                Bezos’ entire personality gets me fuming; I would want to punch him even if he weren’t a billionaire. (Remember that time he talked over William Shatner touchdown?)

                Musk honestly looks ok to me personally, I guess the gender-affirming surgeries went well. But the thought of what’s going on behind his eyes makes me want to punch him in the face real bad.

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    Business that stole everyone’s information to train a model complains that businesses can steal information to train models.

    Yeah I’ll pour one out for folks who promised to open-source their model and then backed out the moment the money appeared… Wankers.

  • Liquidthex@reddthat.com
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    It’s so wild how laws just have no idea what to do with you if you just add one layer of proxy. “Nooo I’m not stealing and plagerizing, it’s the AI doing it!”

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    National security my ass. More like his time span to show more dumb “achievements” while getting richer depends on it and nothing else

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    If I’m using “AI” to generate subtitles for the “community” is ok if i have a large “datastore” of “licensable media” stored locally to work off of right?

  • patrick@lemmy.bestiver.se
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    I don’t think they’re wrong in saying that if they aren’t allowed to train on copyrighted works then they will fall behind. Maybe I missed it in the article, but Japan for example has that exact law (use of copyright to train generative AI is allowed).

    Personally I think we need to give them somewhat of an out by letting them do it but then taxing the fuck out of the resulting product. “You can use copyrighted works for training but then 50% of your profits are taxed”. Basically a recognition that the sum of all copyrighted works is a societal good and not just an individual copyright holders.

    https://jackson.dev/post/generative-ai-and-copyright/

    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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      No, taxes implies a monopoly on the training data. The government profits. The rights holders get nothing back.

      If private data is deemed public for AI training then the results of that training (code+weights+source list) should also be deemed public.

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        fully agree, the only way I’m ok with fair use for AI is if the resulting product is public use. Even if they want to charge for the product to use their frontend, give the ability to use the system local (if your system can support it) much like how most self hosting software does it

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    But I can’t pirate copyrighted materials to “train” my own real intelligence.

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          if the library doesn’t have a book, they will order it from another library….
          every american library…

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              are you sure? have you actually tried? or maybe ask a librarian?
              most public libraries are part of a network of libraries… and a lot of their services aren’t immediately obvious….
              also, all libraries have computers and free internet access…
              i’d like to ask what library in particular, but you probably don’t want to dox yourself like that….

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                My city library will pull from nearby libraries for a fee (like $2/work I think?), or I can use my card at those same libraries for free (just need to return to the same library), but AFAIK they don’t pull from anything beyond that. We’re a relatively small city (like 30-40k people), so maybe things are different downtown.

                University libraries, however, will pull from pretty much everywhere, and they have access to a ton of online academic resources.

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        Unless it’s deemed a “bad” one by your local klanned karenhood and removed from the library for being tOo WoKe

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          i almost wrote that caveat, but decided to leave it low hanging….
          as far as i know, though, that only applies to children’s books at this point…

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      Now you get why we were all told to hate AI. It’s a patriot act for copywrite and IP laws. We should be able too. But that isn’t where our discussions were steered was it

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        5 hours ago

        It’s copyright, not copywrite—you know, the right to copy. Copywriting is what ad people do. And what does this have to do with the PATRIOT Act?