• Wogi@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    This is a great example of the fallacy fallacy.

    A fallacious argument is not necessarily an incorrect one.

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      9 months ago

      Don’t fall prey to the fallacy fallacy fallacy.

      A fallacious argument whose only logical protection is the fallacy fallacy is a fallacy.

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    9 months ago

    If you know enough fallacy types you can basically regress any argument to a set of fallacies. Good job you now have the super power to suggest anything said by anyone is a fallacy. Go and use your powers for being extremely annoying and super counter productive.

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      9 months ago

      That’s where the fallacy fallacy comes into play. It’s the ultimate trap card for those obsessed with pointing out fallacies.

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      9 months ago

      That’s because arguments and debates are not the same thing. Fallacies apply to legitimate debate. They do not apply to arguments.

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        9 months ago

        I’m going to disagree with this.

        Fallacies are logical flaws, they exist regardless.

        Being trained in epistemology to identify my own faulty thinking is one of the best things I’ve ever done.

        Not for arguing or debating, but for communicating, and expressing myself sincerely.

  • ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    This is how my ex would react when I tried to leave her because the relationship was toxic.

    Screaming at me about how she hates being with me then straight to the manipulating when I tried to cut it off

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      9 months ago

      Sounds like narcissistic tendencies, when you stop feeding them they come back.

      Had an ex like this too, the moment I called her bluff and said I was going to grab boxes to move out she changed her tune since the power dynamic shifted. Then she wrapped the conversation around how we should try again and it wasn’t that big of a deal what I’d done, etc.

      Most of them just don’t want to admit anything they’ve ever said was wrong so the perspective changes and gaslighting starts to creep in.