• GHiLA@sh.itjust.works
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    3 hours ago

    Microsoft doesn’t get it.

    I don’t want to use Windows. I want to use my computer.

    Windows and Linux are just tools. If one doesn’t work, don’t hesitate to pick another up and keep working.

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    17 hours ago

    My partner was on a Windows 11-compatible machine running Win 10. She doesn’t keep up to date on computer stuff, and when prompted to upgrade to Win 11 she did, thinking it would be an upgrade. She hated it, and now she is running Linix Mint.

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    18 hours ago

    In other news, I just tried Kubuntu in an older laptop a few weeks ago, and I’m pleasantly surprised. Superior to Windows in almost every way.

    I don’t think it’s “ready for Grandma” yet, but pretty darn close.

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    19 hours ago

    Also thank fuck I’m not in my company’s IT department. Like really? Busy with engineering parameters and getting parts drawn up and ready for procurement? How about a little Windows update? Its just going to take a few Microsoft minutes… 2seconds to be exact, 3 hrs actually, 25 days, 23 seconds, 7:15! , 4 years exactly, 19hrs, 256368468 microseconds!..were almost there! You’re not on your first ow two planned work from home days are you? Admim password please! Oh hey, don’t shut down the computer!

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      I’m dealing with a fair bit of this because my predecessor had the brilliant idea to put windows 11 on unsupported hardware (which I’m actively working on getting replaced). Every time I think I’ve found the last stupid thing they did, I find more janky shit like that.

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      19 hours ago

      Hey, you’re all up to date! Your computer is missing items that are really important! Like Linux for example.

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        11 hours ago

        Updates on Linux are painless, I install them and keep working, and even when it’s done, I save and reboot, then back to work. I can even check what services were impacted and restart those instead of rebooting.

        I don’t underhand why Windows and macOS overcomplicate things. I run a rolling release distribution (Tumbleweed) and things have been smooth for years. But even release based distributions are way simpler to upgrade than either Windows or macOS.

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    24 hours ago

    seems like good way to one day suddenly lose all your files when os bricks itself

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    1 day ago

    I was happy my laptop didn’t meet the requirements, specifically because I’m worried it would update without my permission.

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    I didn’t see where it stated what kind of older, unsupported hardware Windows 11 would feasibly be installed on. Like what, 5 years before it’s release? Even then, why would anyone have Windows 11 on computers 10+ years old?

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      2 days ago

      Anything without a TPM 2.0 module on the motherboard. For example the Lenovo T470 from 2017 doesn’t have it. There are zero other reasons why it, and countless systems around that age and even older, couldn’t run Win 11.
      And anything made before October 2014 definitely doesn’t have one, as that is when TPM 2.0 was released in the first place.

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          Huh, apparently yeah, Ryzen processors should have it. I’m guessing it’s disabled by default then. …or my bios being from 2019 might also have something to do with it :p

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    2 days ago

    When installing on unsupported hardware, Microsoft will push a small disclaimer that effectively cancels your warranty in case of compatibility-related mishaps.

    I had warranty?

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      In case you didn’t know, your Windows license allows you to contact Microsoft directly for support if you are having issues. (Just be sure its an actual Windows issue and not a software/hardware issue)

      This will effectively end that support for your device.

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      The only thing I can see this affecting is the Secure-boot requirement.

      Which is very odd to consider that anything compatibility related would likely have nothing to do with secure boot, and everything to do with Windows being Windows.

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      2 days ago

      …No really, has anyone used this warranty and if so, what does it actually do? (And I mean strictly home users)

      Maybe they don’t officially offer support for those PCs?
      Not like they offer any actual support for home users anyways…

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        So, most windows installations come with an OEM key because it came pre-installed. OEM keys, last I knew, don’t have this support, because the manufacturer is responsible for that.

        If you bought a lenovo laptop, its on lenovo.

        But anyone has been able to buy windows directly with a standard license key and windows supports those computers directly. I’ve never bothered to use it but I worked with people who did and (again, last I knew, some 10+ years ago) they got someone with a thick accent reading from some support article who didn’t know what they were about.

        But they could call. Technically that’s support.

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    Looks like they’re getting a bit nervy that this forced obsolescence might actually push some people away from windows

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    2 days ago

    Will it affect updates on Canary & Dev channels? Hopefully I don’t need to update via ISO every time.

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    2 days ago

    What’s the point in installing Windows 11, which potentially won’t work or may cause problems - and which will not be supported with security updates over a working Windows 10 installation, which is also unsupported after October 2025?

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    What is the point in an official upgrade if it is unsupported? Seems like a way to trick people into an upgrade so they can start nagging users to throw away their hardware and get a new computer.

    So glad I don’t have to worry about this bullshit on my 11+ year old computer that is perfectly fine running Linux without any major issue or lack of support.

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      11 hours ago

      Security updates, mostly. If you’re running an old Windows install on a computer connected to the internet, it’s only a matter if time until it gets comprom byised.

      But yeah, I’m also on Linux, so no worries here.

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        The article calls that out explicitly:

        When installing on unsupported hardware, Microsoft will push a small disclaimer that effectively cancels your warranty in case of compatibility-related mishaps. Likewise, you won’t be entitled to receiving updates - including security updates - so we’re back to square one.

        What is the point in upgrading if you wont get security upgrades either way. Just more spyware and ads in the newer version.

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      1 day ago

      Same thing they have done for years now, turning a blind eye to pirated versions because they know installed base drives software to support Windows.