• UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee
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    3 minutes ago

    Wow thank you for this meme. The comments in the post above this one were absolute dog shit, and I seriously was on the verge of engaging with them. I didn’t engage. Yayyyy

  • neanderthal@lemmy.world
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    29 minutes ago

    Unfortunately, social media is highly influencial of public opinion, so it is a civic responsibility that those with life experience and expertise with things need to engage in. Failure to do so effectively is rolling over for MAGA Nazis 2.0.

    We need to be better at rhetoric and debate. Cicero wrote over 2 millenia ago about the power of eloquence.

    "Wisdom without eloquence does too little for the good of communities, but eloquence without wisdom is, in most instances, extremely harmful and never beneficial. If, then, anyone exerts all of his energies in the practice of oratory to the neglect of the highest and most honorable pursuits of reason and moral conduct, he is reared as a citizen useless to himself and harmful to his country; but the person who arms himself with eloquence in such a way that enables him not to assault the interest of his country, but rather assist them, this man, in my opinion, will be a citizen most helpful and most devoted both to his own interests and those of the public.”

    In recent years, the unwise have weaponized eloquence. The wise among us have failed spectacularly at understanding the importance and power of persuasion.

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    4 hours ago

    Also don’t forget that a considerable number of the users that would engage in a debate with you are either children or bots.

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      The internet would be a different place if you always got to see a picture of who you’re arguing with (people would immediately see that I can’t be wrong)

  • sleen@lemmy.zip
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    5 hours ago

    Peaceful arguments is just not a thing online. There is no learning nor seeing the other perspective - Just people being defensive and manipulative.

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      You win debates for onlookers, you’re not meant to change the perspective of the person you’re debating, you’re meant to make them look like idiots so that any lurkers who quietly agree feel bad and change their viewpoint. The left lost because they weren’t willing to do this hard enough.

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.worldOP
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      4 hours ago

      It unfortunately also not a thing in real life. Tried to convince my mother’s partner that transphobia and homophobia is bad. Best I could do is to him admit it was not about “protecting the children”.

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        It never has been and never will be about protecting the children, not with the full roster of diddlers they keep in positions of authority…

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      It is possible, but especially in the bigger communities its usually just throwing poop at each other(that’s at least my experience).